Perhaps a bit late, but would you (re)consider ... BALUG[1] meets on the evening of 2005-06-21 (generally 3rd Tuesdays). BALUG does have a program/speaker for the 21st, however meet/greet/keysigning would work rather well*. As BALUG hasn't done a keysigning or keysigning event at least within the past year or more, doing such at BALUG may better cross-polinate keysigning. As BAD[2] just met at 21st Amendment earlier this month (including keysigning) this might be somewhat redundant for folks and not create as much cross-keysigning. As BALUG meets on 2005-06-21 (in Chinatown), having both on the same evening also could result in some crowd-splitting, reducing attendence at both. Both locations (BALUG regular meeting location, and 21st Amendment) are approximately equally accessible via BART and other public transportation (both a moderate walk from BART). BALUG meetings are $10.00 USD for dinner (see BALUG site for details).
I'm guestimating doing this at BALUG would sound fine to the BALUG folks in general, but (if and) until the keysigning event is "officially" moved to BALUG, I just included balug-admin-balug.org@lists.balug.org and not yet balug-talk-balug.org and/or balug-announce-balug.org Hmmmm, I don't see that anything has (yet) gone out to balug-announce-balug.org regarding BALUG's speaker for 2005-06-21 ... perhaps if it's (shortly) agreed to move the keysigning to BALUG, BALUG announcement can go out soon, and cover both.
references/excerpts/footnotes: 1. http://www.balug.org/ 2. http://bad.debian.net/ http://zer0.org/mailman/listinfo/ba-keysign/ http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/date.html http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/000143.html http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/000147.html *Mostly from start of and/or before BALUG meeting proper through until start of presentation/speaker - that would allow for about an hour's time, e.g. some folks show up at the bar as early as 6:30 P.M., meeting proper starts at 7:00 P.M., food arrives a bit later, presentation/speaker typically starts around round 7:45 P.M. - 8:00 P.M. and runs typically through about 9:00 P.M. That well leaves most of 7:00 P.M. - approx. 7:45 P.M. available for keysigning, and can also include additional time for those who show up earlier (as early as 6:30 P.M.
Quoting Bruce Badger bbadger@openskills.com:
I will be visiting San Francisco this month. I arrive on the evening of 20th June, and leave on the afternoon of the 22nd.
Ben Hartshorne suggest that I post here to see if anyone would be meeting up for some keysigning on the evening of the 20th or 21st.
I have subscribed to this list, so either post back here or mail me directly if you are interested.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Michael Paoli wrote:
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:56:58 -0700 From: Michael Paoli mp@rawbw.com Reply-To: Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu To: Bruce Badger bbadger@openskills.com, Gregory Sutter gsutter@zer0.org Cc: ba-keysign@zer0.org, balug-admin-balug.org@lists.balug.org Subject: [Balug-admin] keysigning at (BALUG? Re: Visiting SF on 20th-22nd June)
Perhaps a bit late, but would you (re)consider ... BALUG[1] meets on the evening of 2005-06-21 (generally 3rd Tuesdays). BALUG does have a program/speaker for the 21st, however meet/greet/keysigning would work rather well*. As BALUG hasn't done a keysigning or keysigning event at least within the past year or more, doing such at BALUG may better cross-polinate keysigning. As BAD[2] just met at 21st Amendment earlier this month (including keysigning) this might be somewhat redundant for folks and not create as much cross-keysigning. As BALUG meets on 2005-06-21 (in Chinatown), having both on the same evening also could result in some crowd-splitting, reducing attendence at both. Both locations (BALUG regular meeting location, and 21st Amendment) are approximately equally accessible via BART and other public transportation (both a moderate walk from BART). BALUG meetings are $10.00 USD for dinner (see BALUG site for details).
I'm guestimating doing this at BALUG would sound fine to the BALUG folks in general, but (if and) until the keysigning event is "officially" moved to BALUG, I just included balug-admin-balug.org@lists.balug.org and not yet balug-talk-balug.org and/or balug-announce-balug.org Hmmmm, I don't see that anything has (yet) gone out to balug-announce-balug.org regarding BALUG's speaker for 2005-06-21 ... perhaps if it's (shortly) agreed to move the keysigning to BALUG, BALUG announcement can go out soon, and cover both.
references/excerpts/footnotes:
http://zer0.org/mailman/listinfo/ba-keysign/ http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/date.html http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/000143.html http://zer0.org/pipermail/ba-keysign/2005-June/000147.html *Mostly from start of and/or before BALUG meeting proper through until start of presentation/speaker - that would allow for about an hour's time, e.g. some folks show up at the bar as early as 6:30 P.M., meeting proper starts at 7:00 P.M., food arrives a bit later, presentation/speaker typically starts around round 7:45 P.M. - 8:00 P.M. and runs typically through about 9:00 P.M. That well leaves most of 7:00 P.M. - approx. 7:45 P.M. available for keysigning, and can also include additional time for those who show up earlier (as early as 6:30 P.M.
Quoting Bruce Badger bbadger@openskills.com:
I will be visiting San Francisco this month. I arrive on the evening of 20th June, and leave on the afternoon of the 22nd.
Ben Hartshorne suggest that I post here to see if anyone would be meeting up for some keysigning on the evening of the 20th or 21st.
I have subscribed to this list, so either post back here or mail me directly if you are interested.
Balug-admin-balug.org mailing list Balug-admin-balug.org@lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-admin-balug.org
I have no objection to having keysigning from 6:40P< unitill dinner and 5-19 minutes of speaking time after dinner. I also would think having a meeting with keysigning as the topic would be good at some future meeting. Anyone what to do it? Anyone want to arrange it?
Sorry no one replied sooner but I did ask Dick to reply woth our opions.
I am scheduled to spend time away email and be out of town untill Monday afternoon.
I hope someone will send out the meeting reminder!
I hope someone will take meeting notes and have the notes on the Balug website!
I may be at Balug meeting for June meeting. My wife and I have been having medical problems (not related)!
Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com
Sounds like a good plan ... keysigning to start at 6:30 P.M. at BALUG meeting site (that's already what the biglumber event indicates) ... we can "encourage" folks that are interested in keysigning to start up towards 6:30 P.M. ... guestimating based on typical timelines there's probably a fair amount of time for keysigning (talk/presentation part typically doesn't start until about 7:30 or later) ... so it could probably be stretched that long if absolutely necessary, ... but if the keysigning is all or mostly completed on the earlier side of things that's probably better (more time for meet/greet/eat before presentation/talk).
Sounds like ba-keysign is fairly well covered, but perhaps Gregory Sutter or I can send another e-mail there to clear up / confirm / disambiguate details on time/location updates and such.
"Someone" still needs to send to the balug announce list. Does anyone have more details about our speaker other than what's on the front page of the BALUG site itself? I can write up a blurb to go out with announcement to mention the keysigning portion. If no one has more details on the speaker, I could send to the announce list. For keysigning blurb (on BALUG announce) I'd suggest:
" BALUG will also include PGP/GPG keysigning starting at 6:30 P.M. As keysigning won't be possible during most of the later part of the BALUG meeting (as we have speaker/presentation), please try to make it as close to 6:30 P.M. as possible if you're interested in the keysigning. If you're interested in having your key signed, bring government issued photo ID (e.g. drivers license or passport, etc.) and for your key(s), key ID and key fingerprint (preferably on little slips of paper). For signing other folks keys, you'll probably want to make some notes (e.g. bring a writing implement). Placing your key(s) on the biglumber event keyring: https://www.biglumber.com/x/web?ev=77348 (preferably at least several hours ahead of time if possible) can also help facilitate ease of keysigning and exchange. " I'd also suggest the subjet line include "keysigning" and somehow indicate that starts at 6:30 P.M., perhaps something like: BALUG 2005-06-21 6:30 P.M. keysigning; 7:00 P.M. meeting & featured speaker Moshe Bar - CTO of XenSource, Open Source vereran and openMosix Project leader
Anyway, ... if I don't see someone else get this to the announce list, I'll probably cover it this evening, or rather/quite early on Saturday.
Also, hopefully our webmaster could put a bit of information about the keysigning on the web page also.
I'd also guestimate, based on typical BALUG attendence and ba-keysign draw, that roughly 6 to 15 folks would be interested in keysigning, and we can probably well accomplish that within half an hour, and without need for more formalized keysigning algorithms/methodologies (since we may have moderate number of comparatively inexperienced keysigners/signees, less formal methods probably work better for the smaller number of folks anyway). I'm also guestimating ~1/2 of "regular" BALUG attendees will be interested in keysigning (this is based on other LUG+keysigning events - typically about half of attendees partake in keysigning activities at such combined events/meetings).
Quoting Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com:
I have no objection to having keysigning from 6:40P< unitill dinner and 5-19 minutes of speaking time after dinner. I also would think having a meeting with keysigning as the topic would be good at some future meeting. Anyone what to do it? Anyone want to arrange it?
Sorry no one replied sooner but I did ask Dick to reply woth our opions.
I hope someone will send out the meeting reminder!