[BALUG-Admin] Fwd: Mailman 3 listadmin testing (and potential hosting) available

[Michael Paoli]

FYI, did send this out:

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From: Michael Paoli <michael.paoli@berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:54 PM
Subject: Mailman 3 listadmin testing (and potential hosting) available
To: Grant Bowman <grantbow@gmail.com>, Grant Bowman
<grantbow@dvlug.org>, Aaron <acohen36@gmail.com>, Tom
<tomrlopes@gmail.com>, Ian <droid1836@gmail.com>, Rick Moen
<rick@linuxmafia.com>, Al <aw009@sunnyside.com>


Various SF Bay Area [L]UG(s) [potential] list admin folk(s),

May potentially be some additional folks (if interested, contact me).
Thought I'd invite, for possible testing, etc. some folks that are
list admins of various SF Bay Area [L]UG(s), or might be potentially
very seriously interested in that.

Most notably, have Mailman 3 fairly well set up (at least metastable)
on the BALUG VM (still have more Mailman 2 --> Mailman 3 migration
steps to fully test out and validate before I do all those migrations
for the production lists, including related infrastructure of automation
and information, etc.).
In those regards, if folks are interested in a test list on there for
potentially testing for [L]UG use and list administration thereof,
just let me know.  Note that there are test list(s) there currently
(notably balug-test3@lists.balug.org which is on Mailman 3 and will
eventually become and be merged into balug-test@lists.balug.org
when that gets migrated to Mailman 3), but I was thinking more
significantly and distinct from that, list(s) where I could grant folks
full listadmin access and control.  E.g.:
sf-lug-test@lists.balug.org
dvlug-test@lists.balug.org
berkeleylug-test@lists.balug.org
etc.
Could even do different (sub)domains, e.g.:
@lists.dvlug.org
@lists.sf-lug.org
etc., though subdomains would require some fair bit of additional
work/coordination to set that all up properly (DNS, SPF, TLS, ...)
so @lists.balug.org would be the simpler easier place to start and is
already available.
Anyway, if interested, let me know (and notably list name).
If you merely want to test list, can use the existing
balug-test3@lists.balug.org e.g.
send email to: balug-test3-subscribe@lists.balug.org to subscribe
or see:
https://lists.balug.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/balug-test3.lists.balug.org/

And yes, for at least many (SF [L]UG lists), I'd be willing to host on
the BALUG VM (and in general they could have their own subdomain,
in fact for actual general production use that would be exceedingly
recommended, e.g. something like, say for SF-LUG:
sf-lug@lists.sf-lug.org
sf-lug-test@lists.sf-lug.org)
But even if one mostly wants to reasonably well test out Mailman 3 and
list administration thereof, the BALUG VM may be a useful place to be
able to reasonably well do that (want to test drive Mailman 3 and see if
it might make suitable list infrastructure for your [L]UG?).

> From: Michael Paoli <michael.paoli@berkeley.edu>
> Date: Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: dvlug list
> To: Grant Bowman <grantbow@gmail.com>
> Cc: Diablo Valley Linux Users Group (DVLUG) <dvlug@linuxmafia.com>,
>  Diablo Valley Linux Users Group (DVLUG) <list@dvlug.org>
>
> Grant,

...

> Oh, ... I'll also hang it out there for your consideration, if you
> may be interested ... if you may possibly want to have subdomain with
> DVLUG list(s) on <whatever>@lists.dvlug.org., I could potentially
> host that if you so wanted that ... but maybe ask me again in a
> couple weeks or so ... I'm still doing migration off of mailman
> version 2 (could do mailman 2 in the meantime if you really wanted
> that), so still have more testing, etc. to do, and want to wait a bit
> 'till that's all done and the dust well settled before I consider
> that migration to be a full success (in case I find any latent issues
> that may not be immediately apparent).  I'd also think Rick might
> even be willing to do same (notably subdomain part for list) on the
> existing linuxmafia.com host.  In any case, food for thought.  Could
> also potentially migrate so all the old (most notably archives) would
> still also be present under lists.dvlug.org (similar to how things
> are for BALUG under lists.balug.org).  Anyway, just a thought, and
> thought I'd hang the offer out there if you may be interested (and
> would also have the capability to access and back up full archives,
> also member subscription list).  And, yeah just to think about it
> more generally, if you use a subdomain (e.g. lists.dvlug.org) for
> list(s), rather than the main domain (dvlug.org), that does leave
> things much more flexible for how one may want to handle list(s),
> most notably it can be hosted or the like, exceedingly independent of
> whatever else may be going on for hosting or whatever on
> [www.]dvlug.org (e.g. web site, etc.).