From michael.paoli@berkeley.edu Fri Aug 16 05:04:00 2024 From: michael.paoli@berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 22:04:00 -0700 Subject: [BALUG-Announce] BALUG: meeting Tuesday 2024-08-20 Supporting Older Systems, etc. & other BALUG News: Mailman 2 --> Mailman 3 & other upgrades Message-ID: BALUG: meeting Tuesday 2024-08-20 Supporting Older Systems, etc. & other BALUG News: Mailman 2 --> Mailman 3 & other upgrades ------------------------------ items, details further below: BALUG: meeting Tuesday 2024-08-20 Supporting Older Systems, etc. BALUG Upgrades: Mailman 2 --> Mailman 3 & other upgrades giveaways (& wanted), hardware, CDs/DVDs, books/publications, ... help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue, ... ------------------------------ For our 2024-08-20 (3rd Tuesdays) BALUG meeting, we have: Michael Paoli - not a formal presentation, but do have discussion topic, etc.: Supporting older software, operating systems, hardware, upgrading, etc. So, likely to include but not limited to: o How to support older software and operating systems (e.g. past End-of-Life (EOL)), strategies, limitations, etc. o How to support older (e.g. past EOL) hardware o Practical steps to effectively extend (self) support o Upgrading, e.g. how to upgrade from what's already past EOL 6:00pm Tuesday, August 20th, 2024 2024-08-20 Virtual: https://meet.jit.si/BALUG.org Dial-in numbers also available at the URL. Please use earbud(s)/headphone(s) or mute yourself to avoid audio feedback issues, also please if you have background sound/noise issues mute yourself when not talking. Generally works quite fine with reasonably modern Firefox Chrome/Chromium, Microsoft Edge, possibly others (requires WebRTC https://webrtc.org/ (Wikipedia: WebRTC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC) (can also do some testing here: https://test.webrtc.org/ Probably don't worry about minor items like "Reflexive connectivity" )), from desktop, laptop, tablet, smart phone, etc. In-person: Henry's Hunan Restaurant 110 Natoma St. (between 2nd & New Montgomery) San Francisco, CA 94105-3704 1-415-546-4999 https://www.hhunan.com/ https://www.hhunannatoma.com/ Delicious Hunan cuisine and reasonably priced. Easy Transit/Parking Access: short walk from BART, MUNI, parking Trip planning: http://www.511.org/ Meeting Details... Cost/Dining: The meetings are always free, but dinner is not (unless you are our guest speaker, in which case we also treat you to dinner). For Henry's Hunan Restaurant, if folks are agreeable, we'll share and dine "family" style, and split up the costs, and typical cost per person including tax and tip (but not including beverages beyond complementary tea) would be in the $15.00 to $31.00 range, and commonly around $18.00 to $27.00. Cash preferred to ease splitting up the check. One can also specifically order the dish(es) one needs/prefers (e.g. for dietary considerations) - and we also commonly order some dish(es) that may meet various dietary considerations) (e.g. vegetarian, non-pork, ...). Punctual arrival recommended for optimal dining experience, as we expect to be ordering at that time. At approximately 7:00 P.M. we start our presentation/talk, or more informal talk/discussion if we don't have a particularly presentation/talk/presenter or special guest arranged. ------------------------------ BALUG Upgrades: Mailman 2 --> Mailman 3 & other upgrades BALUG will be undergoing various major upgrades. Most of these will be relatively unnoticed by most users, however some changes will be be more noticeable. Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 upgrade will be the upgrade probably most noticed by most users. Some highlights: Doesn't change: o subscriptions/memberships and most per-list member options o list posting addresses Changes substantially: o web interface o managing and viewing member options For more information, see: https://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-talk/2024-August/000251.html https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:mailman2to3 The BALUG VM will also be undergoing some major operating system upgrades. Though this will cause some at least brief outages, I'm aiming and hoping to generally keep those as short as feasible. So, in general, if site appears to be down or some service(s) not operational, probably check back a bit later and they'll likely be available again. I'm hoping/aiming to do most of this work evenings/nights/weekends. ------------------------------ giveaways (& wanted), hardware, CDs/DVDs, books/publications, ... We often have various giveaway items at BALUG meetings. Hardware, etc. wanted/offered! Got some (computer, etc.) hardware, etc. you're looking to acquire or give away (or if not free, well below current fair market value), and locally? We have a wiki page to list that - so ... see what's offered, wanted, etc.! https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:offered_wanted_hardware_etc CDs/DVDs/ISOs, etc. - have a look here: https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc See URL for details. If you're interested in anything in particular, best to request such reasonably in advance (may not schlep the inventory or portion(s) thereof, or have some particular ISO burned and available in quantity >0 if it's not requested in advance). Donations of USB flash, blank or +-RW media, or funding thereof, also appreciated. Books and other titles! have a peek here: https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:books_and_publications ------------------------------ help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue ... You can do useful and cool stuff volunteering to help BALUG. Quite a variety of opportunities to help BALUG. Come talk to us at a meeting and/or drop us a note at: balug-contact@balug.org These opportunities may include, among other possibilities: o assist or lead on speaker coordination/procurement, etc. o venue arrangement (e.g. followup on potential leads, on-site coordination/preparations) o chief/assistant cat herder o assist on publicity o Linux Systems Administration (e.g. do/assist/learn, with/under some quite experienced and skilled Linux systems administrator(s)). o webmaster, assistant webmaster, designer, graphic artist o archivist/history/retrieval/etc. o and other various/miscellaneous tasks BALUG would like to be doing (also feel free to suggest ideas!) ------------------------------ Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or things we should do differently): publicity-feedback@balug.org ------------------------------