[Balug-admin] I'd like to help

[Michael Hubbard]

Rick Moen wrote:

>Quoting Michael Paoli (mp@rawbw.com):
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>>To do / wish list items (not necessarily a complete list):
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>>Mailing lists - get the "old(er)" publicly accessible list archives
>>back on-line.
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>I'm wondering if maybe Michael didn't get the old mbox file from David
>Sifry, and then either he or dreamhost.net/dreamhost.com attempted to 
>regenerate the pipermail archive from there.  The reason I speculate
>that is that the "March 2005" HTML archive appears to have fragments of
>really old, prior years' posts that I recognise among the fifteen "No
>subject" entries.
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>I hope Michael will clarify.  If he has the mbox files, then we're in
>good shape for the long term, and it's just a matter of cleanup.  (I'd
>like to get a copy of the cumulative mbox file, in fact.)
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You're wondering wrong here. The files I got from David were complete... 
but that was more than a year and a half ago!

The mbox files that I sent to dreamhost customer service was from the 
hacked server (a slackware box where it was just previously hosted).

It was probably just an import problem. I don't have the time right now 
to figure that out. If someone wants to, by all means... just let me 
know and I'll set you up with an account under my dreamhost account.

>>Consistent URLs - seems the URLs of the archives have bounced about
>>The latest round of *replacement* list names are significantly longer
>>e-mail addresses (both local part and domain) - we should carefully
>>consider what they should be for the "permanent" e-mail addresses used
>>for each list, and carefully work to get to that goal (e.g.
>>balug-talk-balug.org@lists.balug.org
>>is rather long, not-so-user-friendly and relatively redundant e-mail address
>>for a BALUG talk list)
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>I would suggest, IMVAO, that the recent change combines good with bad.
>Thanks to Michael's kind explanation, the "balug-talk-balug.org" part is
>explained as a dreamhost-ism.  Bad (to be corrected later).
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>I'd maintain that the "lists.balug.org" part is good, and is what should
>have been done originally.  That is, one should ideally use "role" CNAME
>records (or A records, where SMTP is involved) for each distinct major
>public function that a host will serve.  This level of indirect
>addressing lets you reassign individual roles when necessary to different 
>underlying hosts, smoothly transitioning them just by editing DNS
>records (and then waiting a while for caches to time out).
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>So, I'd urge _not_ simplifying back to "balug.org", for the list
>addresses.
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Like I said before... this is the way it stays unless someone else 
offers to take over the mailing lists and host them. It's nice to have 
full control of your own box and setup... but that's not something I can 
offer now (or anymore).

Michael