[BALUG-Admin] BALUG lists ... mailman list(?!), ...

Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu
Tue Aug 15 06:27:53 PDT 2017

So, I made some tweaks to the Mailman list itself, notably including:
o I actually subscribed myself to it.  8-O - thus far it hadn't received
   any emails yet anyway (possibly excepting stuff that didn't make it
   through the spam filters)
o I set it so non-member posts are by default approved
o I set it so subscriptions require approval (but not confirmation)
o set default on password reminders to disabled (if it wasn't already so)
o archives: disabled and private
o set the timeout on items held in queue to 5 days
o disabled ability to subscribe in digested form
o emptied out the footer added on the end of non-digest emails sent

I have also checked that it now works.

Since I earlier set it to "advertised" No:
"Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine?"  No
I think the only place it shows up is the
Overview of all temp.balug.org mailing lists
web page ... but nevertheless it is included there (and Mailman has to
have a list for that general functionality - and by default and convention
that list name is Mailman), so, it ought work reasonably for the intended

> From: "Rick Moen" <rick@linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [BALUG-Admin] BALUG lists ... mailman list(?!), blank  
> body with command in Subject: header
> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 10:44:33 -0700

> Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu):
>> I (over?-)tweaked the mailman list page - it's got just about nothing
>> on it except bit to unsubscribe or edit options.  Could alternatively
>> put it mostly to default, and just strip out the bits about subscribe
>> and post ... but practically, don't know if it makes all that much
>> difference.  Folks(/bots) could still subscribe via email.
> It actually doesn't make any difference, especially if you make it
> unadvertised.
>> Also, the "not advertised" - seems to work or mostly work.
>> The only (maybe?) exception I see is if mail is sent to
>> the mailman list with the command list - it does include
>> itself in the list - but if one's emailing it anyway, maybe
>> kind'a pointless for it to not show itself?
> To make sure we're clear on what's being discussed, here, an
> unadvertised list is one not displayed on the sitewide listinfo
> page.  E.g., linuxmafia.com's sitewise listinfo page is:
> http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo
> That page lists eight mailing lists but not these two:
> http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/Mailman
> (and one other that is non-public)
> I just e-mailed a test query of the command 'lists' to
> mailman-request@linuxmafia.com:  It sent back a roster of the public
> mailing lists plus mailing list Mailman (which it included even though I
> set its unadvertised flag).  The non-public other list was omitted.
> It's possible that this behaviour was changed in a later Mailman
> release.
> For better or worse, hardly anyone uses the e-mail command interface;
> it's quite obscure compared to the Web one.
>> I think that's "quite close enough" for now, and "good enough" to go
>> forward - with (pending) those adjustments to the text that gets sent.
> Looks good.

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