[BALUG-Admin] BALUG list(+list archives) migrations ...

Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu
Thu Jun 1 10:05:16 PDT 2017

8-O - didn't hit target timeline, though I did get fair bit done this
weekend.  Still more to do.  Present updated target is to be done with
DreamHost by end of June.  Hope to have the first (test) list up
fairly soon, then probably migrate about one list about every several
days or so.

Did also put some information on the wiki too - pretty much documenting
the process as it goes along.

> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: BALUG list(+list archives) migrations - temporary subdomain  
> name: temp.balug.org
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 02:13:52 -0700

> BALUG list(+list archives) migrations - temporary subdomain name:  
> temp.balug.org
> Did it - set up (sub)domain temp.balug.org. for use with list migrations.
> Thanks Rick, for the suggestion!  I think temp is best compromise
> between fully descriptive (too long), and shortest that conveys meaning
> (tmp may be clear to those more familiar with Linux/Unix, but may not be
> sufficiently clear for, e.g. those interested in Linux, but not or not
> particularly familiar with Linux).  At first I was thinking it not
> having "lists" as part of the name wouldn't or might not be clear enough
> ... but including "lists" is relatively unneeded and unimportant and
> makes the name much longer than needed ... and besides, it's only
> temporary anyway, so temp is more than good enough, and quite
> sufficiently short, without being overly terse.
> Also, I set up temp.balug.org. as a delegated subdomain!  8-O
> Yes, there's good reason for that, notably:
> o makes dealing with it and changing it if/as needed *much* easier
>   (dealing with changing stuff on DNS managed by DreamHost.com is
>   relatively cumbersome and annoying)
> o There are a lot or things DreamHost.com hosted DNS just doesn't let
>   one do - e.g. change the TTL on DNS Resource Records (RRs).
> o It's only temporary anyway - once DNS is fully off of DreamHost.com's
>   hosted DNS, it can then be rather easily merged in with the parent
>   delegation and managed with that DNS.
> The NS and SOA records are needed for the delegation, at present,
> showing the records we have:
> $ dig @`dig +short temp.balug.org. NS | head -n 1` +noall +answer  
> +norecurse temp.balug.org. ANY www.temp.balug.org. ANY
> temp.balug.org.         14400   IN      SOA     ns1.balug.org.  
> hostmaster.balug.org. 1493101447 14400 1800 1814400 1800
> temp.balug.org.         14400   IN      NS      ns1.balug.org.
> temp.balug.org.         14400   IN      A
> temp.balug.org.         14400   IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f04:19e::2
> temp.balug.org.         14400   IN      MX      100 mx.temp.balug.org.
> www.temp.balug.org.     14400   IN      A
> www.temp.balug.org.     14400   IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f04:19e::2
> $
> The www.temp.balug.org. and AAAA records probably aren't required, but
> may be good to have, and can be dropped/altered easily enough if/as
> necessary.
> Also, while I was renewing SSL cert anyway, I also added:
> temp.balug.org
> www.temp.balug.org
> to the cert, in case those may be desirable.
> Timeline (gu)estimates?
> I'd like to have working balug-test@temp.balug.org list by end of the
> month ... but that maybe overly optimistic.  Within a week's time is a
> more probable target to be met.
> Following that I'm hoping then to move over the
> remaining lists and everything off of DreamHost.com by mid-May - or
> "worst case", certainly by end of May.
> I'd like to move BALUG's lists, one at a time, in fairly timely
> succession - but allowing some time between to see if there are any
> glitches of note that come up - especially anything that's feasible to
> better smooth the migration in the procedures.  The lists would migrate
> in the sequence:
> balug-admin@lists.balug.org
> balug-talk@lists.balug.org
> balug-announce@lists.balug.org
> Will also have to set up the infrastructure to handle:
> @balug.org
> Once all that's done, then some final remnant bits to migrate/copy/rsync
> from DreamHost.com, then DNS can be undelegated from DreamHost.com.
> At that point (after suitable TTL wait) we're fully off of
> DreamHost.com.
> Can then reconfigure to return lists.balug.org to canonical,
> and phase out temp.balug.org (e.g. before expiration
> at 2017-07-24T10:44:00+0000 of cert that covers temp.balug.org and
> www.temp.balug.org).
> references/excerpts:
> http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2017-April/003064.html
>> From: "Rick Moen" <rick@linuxmafia.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BALUG-Admin] BALUG list(+list archives) migrations -  
>> temporary subdomain name?
>> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 00:00:28 -0700
>> Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu):
>>> So ... what'cha all think?
>> temp.balug.org
>> Keep it simple -- and short.
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