[BALUG-Admin] Comcast Business apparently blocking 5353 UDP Re: linuxmafia.com "retry limit exceeded"

Al awbalug@sunnyside.com
Tue Jun 4 14:26:43 UTC 2024


Rick, Michael,
Fine with balug-admin, though I confess when I'm just on my phone I 
can't as easily send from the right email address, which is why you saw 
me keep deleting the email list from my To: list.

I confess as well I have been away a few days and not following things 
as closely as I should but this morning I have tested both of your 
systems to see if port 53 is blocked and I cannot find that port 53 is 
blocked at all.  I tested by doing simple dig commands 
@your-nameservers.  I assume that's sufficient.

A quick note on SecurityEdgeTM.  I did not, on my site, go to the 
settings for SecurityEdgeTM - instead I stayed on the main 
business.comcast.com page and disabled the entire product.  I suspect 
that is more effective, but I admit I'm not reading your posts as 
thoroughly as I should.
Specifically, I go to page 
"https://business.comcast.com/connectivity/internetdashboard/?index" 
(when logged in) and in the lower left, there's a gear symbol next to 
the status of SecurityEdge, and clicking on that gives me a pop-up side 
panel where I can disable the entire product.  The product seems at 
least partly geared to protecting the world from me, not me from the 
world, and blocks me doing things.  Sad, lame, poorly though out product 
IMHO.

I also did try this command:
dig -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org
and had no trouble at all with it.

Specifically all these commands gave exactly the full normal output one 
would expect and were extremely fast:
  1087  2024/06/04 06:54:07 dig a linuxmafia.com
  1088  2024/06/04 06:54:17 dig a balug.org
  1089  2024/06/04 06:55:54 dig @linuxmafia.com. a linuxmafia.com.
  1090  2024/06/04 06:56:43 host ns0.sunnyside.com.
  1091  2024/06/04 06:57:26 dig a balug.org
  1092  2024/06/04 06:57:30 dig ns balug.org
  1093  2024/06/04 06:58:53 dig ns balug.org @96.86.170.229
  1094  2024/06/04 07:04:48 dig -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org

Al

al@post:/z/dns$ dig a linuxmafia.com

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> a linuxmafia.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40024
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1472
; COOKIE: f11d131e6875657301000000665f1c7f041c0db84eb094fe (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;linuxmafia.com.                        IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
linuxmafia.com.         36679   IN      A       96.95.217.99

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.147.248.10#53(192.147.248.10)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:54:07 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 87

al@post:/z/dns$ dig a balug.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> a balug.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11417
;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1472
; COOKIE: b482118c217e285d01000000665f1c898bbff5b5edb3d896 (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;balug.org.                     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
balug.org.              9722    IN      A       96.86.170.229

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.147.248.10#53(192.147.248.10)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:54:17 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 82

al@post:/z/dns$ dig @linuxmafia.com. a linuxmafia.com.

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> @linuxmafia.com. a linuxmafia.com.
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 43273
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;linuxmafia.com.                        IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      A       96.95.217.99

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      NS      ns0.sunnyside.com.
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      NS      ns3.linuxmafia.com.
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      NS      ns.tx.primate.net.
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      NS      ns1.linuxmafia.com.
linuxmafia.com.         86400   IN      NS      ns.primate.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.linuxmafia.com.     86400   IN      A       96.95.217.99
ns3.linuxmafia.com.     86400   IN      A       107.204.234.170

;; Query time: 23 msec
;; SERVER: 96.95.217.99#53(96.95.217.99)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:55:54 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 203

al@post:/z/dns$ dig ^C
al@post:/z/dns$ host ns0.sunnyside.com.
ns0.sunnyside.com has address 99.43.100.202
ns0.sunnyside.com has IPv6 address 2600:1700:45a:e520:8099:43:100:ca
al@post:/z/dns$ dig a balug.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> a balug.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64776
;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1472
; COOKIE: e211ccbbe58795cd01000000665f1d46cd1e1ed08173e4ee (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;balug.org.                     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
balug.org.              9533    IN      A       96.86.170.229

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.147.248.10#53(192.147.248.10)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:57:26 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 82

al@post:/z/dns$ dig ns balug.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> ns balug.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35169
;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 8

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1472
; COOKIE: 1c7d712b366d870601000000665f1d4a2859210ac56d69f9 (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;balug.org.                     IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
balug.org.              245     IN      NS      nsx.sunnyside.com.
balug.org.              245     IN      NS      nsy.sunnysidex.com.
balug.org.              245     IN      NS      ns0.balug.org.
balug.org.              245     IN      NS      ns1.linuxmafia.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.linuxmafia.com.     41793   IN      A       96.95.217.99
nsx.sunnyside.com.      39875   IN      A       50.242.105.52
nsy.sunnysidex.com.     39875   IN      A       50.18.139.240
ns0.balug.org.          245     IN      A       96.86.170.229
nsx.sunnyside.com.      39875   IN      AAAA 
2603:3024:180d:f100:50:242:105:34
nsy.sunnysidex.com.     39875   IN      AAAA 
2600:1f1c:528:c500:5e0b:8a37:6598:356c
ns0.balug.org.          246     IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::2

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.147.248.10#53(192.147.248.10)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:57:30 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 327

al@post:/z/dns$ dig ns balug.org @96.86.170.229

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> ns balug.org @96.86.170.229
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18557
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
; COOKIE: 8e52861009e139f9e08c9083665f1d9dd0fd488facdb9e1b (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;balug.org.                     IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      nsx.sunnyside.com.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      ns0.balug.org.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      nsy.sunnysidex.com.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      ns1.linuxmafia.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns0.balug.org.          3600    IN      A       96.86.170.229
ns0.balug.org.          3600    IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::2

;; Query time: 19 msec
;; SERVER: 96.86.170.229#53(96.86.170.229)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 06:58:53 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 217

al@post:/z/dns$ dig -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19989
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
; COOKIE: 7721edc894b4f780e65714a2665f1f00f62318d534f67494 (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;balug.org.                     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
balug.org.              86400   IN      A       96.86.170.229

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      ns1.linuxmafia.com.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      nsx.sunnyside.com.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      ns0.balug.org.
balug.org.              3600    IN      NS      nsy.sunnysidex.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns0.balug.org.          3600    IN      A       96.86.170.229
ns0.balug.org.          3600    IN      AAAA    2001:470:1f05:19e::2

;; Query time: 23 msec
;; SERVER: 96.86.170.229#5353(96.86.170.229)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 04 07:04:48 PDT 2024
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 233


On 6/3/2024 09:36, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Al Whaley (aw009@sunnyside.com):
>
>> That security edge feature is no longer optional on Comcast business
>> accounts. However you can log into your Comcast business website
>> portal as yourself and look at your options and very quickly turn
>> security edge off.
> Guys, I've moved this back to balug-admin, because I like the record
> that keeps, and we're not talking about anything that dannot be public.
> Is that alright?
>
> Good idea about that accursed SecurityEdge "feature".  I've now disabled
> that blasted thing in the Comcast Business account to the extent they
> permit, I think?
>
> Initial login takes me to
> https://business.comcast.com/account/dashboard/accounts/689906011127102015Comcast.IMS
> where I see Subscribed Services described as "Business Internet
> Essential 150 Mbps / 25 Mbps" and below that "SecurityEdgeTM", which is
> a link, following which goes to https://securityedge.comcast.com/#home ,
> showing tab Dashboard, which has nothing adjustable, but move on to tab
> Settings, page https://securityedge.comcast.com/#settings/profiles .
> Here, "Web Filters" had a predefined "protection level" of "Light", but
> one can select "None", which I did.
>
> Scrolling down the page, everything settable is Off, except that section
> Internet Security has "Malware & Phishing Protection" set to "On", which
> slide control is greyed out (unchangeable).  Subtitle is "Keeps user
> from compromising the network or their personal data if they
> accidentally or intentionally access infected web [sic] pages or click
> on phishing emails."  Select Save at the page bottom to implement.
>
> Slide control "Web Filters" at the top of the page now shows Off.
>
> The other tabs, "Block & Allow Lists", "Block Page Construction",
> "Domain Lookup", and "Scheduled Reports" don't appear to have anything
> useful for my purposes.
>
> Orange banner at the very top of the page now says:  "Web Filter
> Protection is now off.  To safeguarg your network, Malware, Phishing,
> and Botnet Protection remains on.  Learn More [link]."
>
> Following link goes to
> https://securityedge.comcast.com/#help/turning-web-filters-on-and-off ,
> which is a long documentation page including justifying preventing
> turning that part off:
>
>    Malware, phishing and botnet traffic is generated by malicious
>    software. Protection against this traffic is critical. This is why we do
>    not recommend disabling the Malware and Phishing setting for any user
>    profile. The setting remains enabled even if you turn off Web Filters.
>
> Also notable:
>
>    To turn Web Filters on or off, log in to Comcast Business SecurityEdge.
>    On the top right of any page, click the Web Filters toggle switch: from
>    On to Off to deactivate the Protection Level, Block & Allow Lists and
>    Off-Hours Internet Schedule, or from Off to On to activate them. The
>                                                                     ^^^
>    change is applied immediately.
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Noting that final sentence, I now attempt another smoke test, to see if
> the problem is gone:
>
> $ dig -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> $
>
> Nope.
>
> Noting Al's wording "look at your options and very quickly turn
> security edge off", I try to see if there's another entry point into the
> account to do so.  What about "My Account" over on the far side of the
> navbar for
> https://business.comcast.com/account/account-details/689906011127102015Comcast.IMS
> ?
>
> I see:
>    SUBSCRIBED SERVICES:
>    Business Internet
>      - SecurityEdge
>
> Clicking "Business Internt" takes me to
> https://business.comcast.com/connectivity/internetdashboard/ , Where
> Item
>    SECURITYEDGEtm
>    Cybersecurity
> is shown as "Disabled".
>
> At some point, I tried toggling the "Web Filters" toggle from the Off to
> the On position, and then back to Off.  This resulted in my losing
> connectivity to my server for a few minutes, getting Network Unreachable
> on my ssh reconnection.  I infer that the "modem" device was resetting.
>
> I continute to get...
> $ dig -p 5353 @96.86.170.229 balug.org
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> $
>
> Al, Michael, am I missing a trick, here?
>




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