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test - ignore
by Michael Paoli 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

yet another test ... ..

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test - ignore
by Michael Paoli 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

yet another test ... SPF look good on IPv4 also?

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test ignore --> lists.balug.org (to: balug-test@temp.balug.org)
by Michael Paoli 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

test ignore --> lists.balug.org ... all the right headers & URLs, etc? Backwards compatible (for transition period) with temp.balug.org? (actual Apache bits still to be adjusted - will set up redirects)

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test ignore --> lists.balug.org (to: balug-test@lists.balug.org)
by Michael Paoli 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

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Re: [BALUG-Test] Oooh, ... archive tests ... :-)
by aaronco36 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:39:58 -0700 > From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu> > To: BALUG-Test <balug-test(a)temp.balug.org> > Subject: [BALUG-Test] Oooh, ... archive tests ... :-) > > So ... since some while (week(s)?) back, I changed the archiving > of BALUG-Test from (default of) monthly, to yearly, > that's all fine and good *except* ... archiving looks > a bit funky ... notably changing that setting doesn't > retroactively change what's already been archived, so, > e.g. on > https://temp.balug.org/pipermail/balug-test/ > we see something that looks approximatley like: > Archive ... > August 2017: ... > July 2017: ... > 2017: ... ... ... Am wondering what the TL;DR of all this is, i.e., the summarized outcome and current status of all Michael P's efforts here? -A aaronco36(a)sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org

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test - ignore - to: balug-test@lists.balug.org
by Michael Paoli 20 Sep '17

20 Sep '17

test - ignore - to: balug-test(a)lists.balug.org At this point, both @lists.balug.org and @temp.balug.org should work.

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test - ignore - to: balug-test@temp.balug.org
by Michael Paoli 20 Sep '17

20 Sep '17

test - ignore - to: balug-test(a)temp.balug.org At this point, both @lists.balug.org and @temp.balug.org should work.

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test - ignore to: balug-test@lists.balug.org - may not yet work at all nor reliably ...
by Michael Paoli 18 Sep '17

18 Sep '17

test - ignore to: balug-test(a)lists.balug.org - may not yet work at all nor reliably - lists.balug.org only partially configured, various TTLs (notably negative caching) not yet covered, etc.

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Oooh, ... archive tests ... :-)
by Michael Paoli 18 Sep '17

18 Sep '17

So ... since some while (week(s)?) back, I changed the archiving of BALUG-Test from (default of) monthly, to yearly, that's all fine and good *except* ... archiving looks a bit funky ... notably changing that setting doesn't retroactively change what's already been archived, so, e.g. on https://temp.balug.org/pipermail/balug-test/ we see something that looks approximatley like: Archive ... August 2017: ... July 2017: ... 2017: ... Which does look kind'a odd (after all, those months are also within the year 2017 - and it also may not be immedately visually apparent as to whether or not the 2017 archive does or doesn't include July 2017 and August 2017. Also, archive generally lists most recent at top, so, having the most recent (year) data at the bottom is also rather odd in its presentation. So ... let's reload those archives (I'm overdue for some testing of that anyway) ... $ hostname && id && ls -ld /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/balug-test.mbox/balug-test.mbox /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/balug-test.mbox/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ && umask balug-sf-lug-v2.balug.org uid=38(list) gid=38(list) groups=38(list) drwxrws--- 12 www-data list 4096 Aug 6 03:11 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 Jul 10 01:13 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/balug-test.mbox/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 63407 Aug 19 23:53 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/balug-test.mbox/balug-test.mbox 0077 $ //I'd not altered permissions or used the mailman arch command to (re)load an //archive ... that's the "Debian way" they're set up - at least on //old-stable. Note also that that differs somewhat from what the //mailman check_perms says they ought be ... but regardless it works, //and I'm guestimating for Debian is (moderately?) preferable settings //on those. $ (umask 0114 && /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch --wipe balug-test) ... And ... https://temp.balug.org/pipermail/balug-test/ that looks *much* better, ... but ... looks can be deceiving, web page looks fine, but web accessible archive bits thereof ... nope - looks like it only has what was already in the "year" archive, but lacks the earlier messages. Ah, ... silly browser (and/or what mailman may have earlier told it regarding caching) ... a reload of the page, and then all looks fine. And ... permissions? Let's see if what resulted looks good/sane in that regard, most notably expecting 'em to match similar archives - or at least be highly compatible (most notably relevant access via the group list). $ (cd /var/lib/mailman/archives/ && find * -follow -type f ! -mmin +60 -exec ls -ld \{\} \;) -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1143 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/index.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 31152 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 5036 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000003.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 6457 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000005.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2185 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000000.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3804 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000007.html lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 11 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/index.html -> thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3449 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/date.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7136 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000001.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2522 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000008.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2740 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000010.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 8441 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000002.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 8244 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000004.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2553 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000009.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7865 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000006.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3443 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/subject.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2416 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000011.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3390 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000012.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3994 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3075 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/000013.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3445 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/2017/author.html -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1942 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/database/2017-thread -rw-rw---- 1 list list 19497 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/database/2017-article -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2455 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/database/2017-subject -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1756 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/database/2017-date -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2014 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/database/2017-author -rw-rw---- 1 list list 847 Sep 18 01:07 private/balug-test/pipermail.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1143 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/index.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 31152 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 5036 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000003.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 6457 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000005.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2185 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000000.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3804 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000007.html lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 11 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/index.html -> thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3449 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/date.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7136 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000001.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2522 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000008.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2740 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000010.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 8441 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000002.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 8244 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000004.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2553 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000009.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7865 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000006.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3443 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/subject.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 2416 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000011.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3390 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000012.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3994 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3075 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/000013.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3445 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/2017/author.html -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1942 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/database/2017-thread -rw-rw---- 1 list list 19497 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/database/2017-article -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2455 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/database/2017-subject -rw-rw---- 1 list list 1756 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/database/2017-date -rw-rw---- 1 list list 2014 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/database/2017-author -rw-rw---- 1 list list 847 Sep 18 01:07 public/balug-test/pipermail.pck $ //That would, at least at quick glance, appear quite reasonable, and //seems to function okay, etc. //Is it consistent with the other archives (notably in //permissions/ownerships)? $ (cd /var/lib/mailman/archives/ && find */balug-announce -follow -name database -type d -prune -o -type f -exec ls -ld \{\} \;) -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1204 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/index.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7800 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3552 Aug 14 03:27 private/balug-announce/2017-August.txt.gz -rw-rw---- 1 list list 856 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/pipermail.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 10651 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/000000.html lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 11 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/index.html -> thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1751 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/date.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1745 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/subject.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1772 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1747 Aug 14 01:10 private/balug-announce/2017-August/author.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1204 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/index.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 7800 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 3552 Aug 14 03:27 public/balug-announce/2017-August.txt.gz -rw-rw---- 1 list list 856 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/pipermail.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 10651 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/000000.html lrwxrwxrwx 1 list list 11 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/index.html -> thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1751 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/date.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1745 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/subject.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1772 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/thread.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 list list 1747 Aug 14 01:10 public/balug-announce/2017-August/author.html $ //I'd say that all looks quite excellently consistent. Hopefully our //umask value didn't even matter to the arch command, and it simply "did //the right thing" anyway ... but we set a prudent value - in case arch //didn't set it or explicity set permissions. Maybe I'll (further) test //that at some point ... but that's lower on the priority queue. //And ... let's also test delete/add of a message to make sure that //works as we hope and expect ... //and that all tests good, no surprises there. //So ... onto merging into the archives the older raw mbox //bits obtained from DreamHost.com.

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Digest vs. not issue?
by Michael Paoli 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

Saw bit of an apparent(?) issue. I'm wondering if anyone is able to similarly replicate issue. Anyway, I'd subscribed, non-digest form. At some point, switched to digest, ... then back again. After switching to non-digest, email continued to come as digests ... and not just like one following queued-up catch-up one. I tried flipping the setting back and forth, in each case, it always showed the option as I set it, yet somehow I couldn't get the emails to resume coming in non-digest form. That also persisted with bounces of Mailman services, etc. Anyway, unsubscribed, and resubscribed ... hopefully that at least gets me out'a digest mode. And presuming that looks okay, I may later retest again to see if digest mode gets effectively "stuck", when it ought not get stuck in such manner. Anyway, curious if anyone else is able to reproduce that apparent issue I saw.

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