Thanks for the suggestion.

I do really want to keep the footer short, like 3 lines maximum, per various best practices, etc. Alas, folks mostly tend to ignore what's there anyway.

And within that constraint, also want to maximize useful information in there.

So did squeeze it down to list, help, and unsubscribe all in there within 3 lines, including border line to set off the footer.

Archive information is also in the headers, e.g.: List-Archive: https://lists.balug.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/balug-test@lists.balug.org/ And for non-digest archived postings, e.g.: Archived-At: https://lists.balug.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/balug-test@lists.balug.org/message/7E646QDGAQBC6JLQJEVGWRJPZPCEJRA5/ Post may also be excluded from archiving, e.g. per list configuration or use of headers in the mailing to the list, e.g.: X-No-Archive X-Archive: no

So ... though footer can use $hyperkitty_url to give location where the posting is archived, there's no available conditional to exclude that when the item isn't archived, so something like: Archived-At: $hyperkitty_url wouldn't be so useful in such case, and bare URL may not be particularly clear as to what it's for. Also haven't (yet) checked what $hyperkitty_url substitutes to when the posting isn't archived. And giving the list archive location is a quite long URL, e.g.: https://lists.balug.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/balug-test@lists.balug.org/ And that's without even giving text of what it is. Could do something like shorter URLs with redirection, but that would be yet more stuff to do and maintain, and should give the canonical. And if it were rewrite/alias, that still has downside of non-canonical and further complicating web configuration, and also reduces web SEO with multiple pathnames to duplicate content.

So ... hopefully it being in the headers (and clearly enough visible on the web site) will reasonably suffice. Maybe I'll add it to the help web page: https://lists.balug.org/help/ Definitely still more additional useful information I could add there. Could possibly even change that URL to redirect to location on wiki, then additional folks could also reasonably well edit it too. :-)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 12:26 PM admin@bclug.ca wrote:

Michael Paoli via BALUG-Test wrote on 2024-09-07 21:04:

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Yet another footer test. Hopefully this one's looking pretty good.

Can I suggest putting a link to the archives in the footer?

I find them handy on the MM3 mailing list to sometimes load a thread in a browser, or even up-voting a particularly informative post to raise its visibility.