"Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com
Ah, what listadmins get to deal with :-/ ... (if anyone has constructive criticism on how this process/instructions can be improved, feel free to chime in).
I'm sorry, "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com, but now you're getting annoying. BALUG has over 800 list subscribers, but alas, you're now the less than 1 in 800 that can't figure out how to get the email address you have subscribed, unsubscribed. The instructions from the list and web pages are pretty straight-forward. I also specifically and personally emailed you and the email address subscribed that's apparently getting that subscribed email to you, relevant instructions. Yet it appears you still fail to follow those instructions.
It ain't rocket science. I don't know how much more clear it can be. There's a subscribed, opted in (probably double opted in) email address that's receiving email from the list. Great. You say it's some catch-all you can't sent from - whatever, not my problem, that doesn't prevent you (or whomever controls that email) from unsubscribing.
By default, you even get monthly password reminder - you shouldn't share that password with anyone (not even me) ... whatever, you also included it in your email. So, okay, go to the web interface - you know what that is, you know what Internet and browser and web are, right? Did you read my email? Did you comprehend it? You put the subscribed email in the box to unsubscribe ... don't have the password, you can request password reminder, and it'll email it to you. So, subscribed email address, password, web form, clicky-clicky, boom, unsubscribed. With that, it's immediate, no email confirmation or the like needed (I think it kicks out one final email that the email address has been unsubscribed) ... and yeah, I just retested all that, works 100% perfectly fine lickety split. So, ain't too damn hard, just friggin' do it. If you can't handle that, give the email address and password to someone else who might volunteer do do that for you - but I'm not going to do that for you. Just do it - get it done - boom, unsubscribed, not that hard. If you can't figure out the instructions, maybe search on the web on how to unsubscribe from a mailman list - probably a few zillion examples/tutorials out there too - it ain't hard.
And if that "catch-all" email doesn't want to be unsubscribed, too bad for them - they're apparently forwarding you the list email ... that also allows you to control the subscription of that email ... that's just the way it is. I have absolutely zero control of what email sent to balug.org@jperla.com gets forwarded to "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com Not my problem, if you have issue with that, I suggest you take it up with balug.org@jperla.com.
Sorry if this sounds frustrated, but well, it is. I get too many of these kinds of darn emails (not frequently, but they do occasionally keep coming up ... relentless occasional dribble/trickle). If you've got useful criticism on how the instructions and such can be improved, sure, send it. If you can provide any diagnostics of where things are failing where they're in fact nor functioning as they ought, great, please provide it - but you've not done any of that. You're basically just "please unsubscribe me". No, it's self-serve - you (or balug.org@jperla.com) self-subscribed, and have all the needed access to as, or even more easily, likewise self-unsubscribe the balug.org@jperla.com address yourself. So, please do so.
Hmmm, hey, I guess this isn't the best time to also put out a pitch, Hey, who'd also like to also volunteer to be a list admin and deal with emails from folks that can't read and follow instructions, on a recurring basis?
From: "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com Subject: Re: BALUG list(s) unsubscribe Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 01:18:38 +0000
It?s a catch all address and I can?t send email from it. Please unsubscribe
On Fri, May 1 2020 at 6:16 PM, Michael Paoli < Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu > wrote:
balug.org@jperla.com, [Cc: "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com]
(Also, "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com, if your issue is with balug.org@jperla.com sending/forwarding email to you that you don't want, I suggest you take that up with balug.org@jperla.com, as balug.org has no control over what balug.org@jperla.com does with their email).
Subscribe/unsubscribe is completely self-service on BALUG lists.
So, you should be able to fully take care of that yourself.
See the reference information (links, etc.) provided further below.
Note also: o every list mailing contains URL(s) towards end of message body to manage subscription(s) - including unsubscribing o in addition to the above, every list posting sent also contains unsubscribe information within the message headers (notably the "List-Unsubscribe: " header contains information on how to unsubscribe both via email and via URL)
If that doesn't work for you, please provide: o The error diagnostic(s) (if any) you're getting when you attempt to unsubscribe. o What steps you're following that result in the above (never tell me/us nor anyone your list password, but otherwise provide relevant details) o FULL EMAIL HEADERS of an example message that you're getting or still getting that you're trying to unsubscribe from.
Hopefully you should be able to self-unsubscribe, but if that fails, please let us know, as noted above.
Thanks for your attention to this and your cooperation,
The busy BALUG / list administrator folks.
See also / references / excerpts / hints: https://www.balug.org/#Lists https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/balug-announce https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/balug-talk https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/balug-admin https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/balug-test https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
references/excerpts (redacted):
From: "Joseph Perla" joseph@jperla.com Subject: Re: lists.balug.org mailing list memberships reminder Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 06:14:36 +0000
Please remove balug.org@jperla.com I cannot.
On Thu, Apr 30 2020 at 10:00 PM, < mailman-owner@lists.balug.org > wrote:
This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your lists.balug.org mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list.
You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of the list (for example, mailman-request@lists.balug.org) containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions.
If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to mailman-owner@lists.balug.org. Thanks!
Passwords for balug.org@jperla.com:
List Password // URL ---- -------- balug-announce@lists.balug.org [REDACTED] https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/balug-announce/balug.org%40j...