Just so everyone is also aware, BALUG lists are publicly archived (I believe that's always been the case, and is reasonably clear on the lists' pages).

Also, on the new infrastructure, the full raw archive (mbox) files are also available. They can be found on the lists' archive pages, the link on each labeled: download the full raw archive

Note that the old archives aren't merged in yet, but expecting to have that completed in the near future.

Also, planning to make those full raw archive mbox files available via rsync - that will also be more handy/useful/efficient, as some missing bits of the archives get filled in later (don't presume the mbox files are append-only ... though they will generally be append-mostly). Over the years, there have been multiple occasions where DreamHost.com lost some or all of our archives (at least on some of our lists). Still hoping to later reinject and restore that, from other copies we have or may be able to obtain.

That also means that anyone has the ability to backup the entire raw mbox archive. :-) Making those raw mbox archives public wasn't even an option with DreamHost.com (at least through current version of MailMan, it's a global option setting, and not per-list. DreamHost.com hosted many lists from many customers, so didn't reasonably have a way to adjust that on a per-customer or per-list basis).

Two most important assets of list, are the archives, and the members/roster - with those it's always possible to recreate the list if needed/warranted. Without those, not so easy to infeasible.

From: "Michael Paoli" Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu To: BALUG-Test balug-test@temp.balug.org Subject: BALUG-Test: full raw mbox archive publicly available Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:34:46 -0700

And yes, the full raw mbox archive for BALUG-Test is publicly available: $ curl -I https://temp.balug.org/pipermail/balug-test.mbox/balug-test.mbox HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:29:02 GMT Server: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Last-Modified: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:23:34 GMT ETag: "a046-5540b71d48512" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 41030 Content-Type: application/mbox

$ Procedure documented on: https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:mail_and_lists notably: o Y full mbox archive publicly available; procedure: add: PUBLIC_MBOX = Yes to file: /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py restart mailman for existing lists, toggling archive from public to private and back again seems sufficient to then create the needed link

Also making it available via public rsync is on the todo list, but not towards the higher/highest priority bits. "Not worse than" migration off of DreamHost.com is higher on the priorities. Additional improvements generally come later.