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The great pizza matrix - or pizza for 29 to 81 people
by Michael Paoli 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

Based on RSVPs received thus far, and ones still trickling in, and impending deadlines, we'll likely end up with between 30 and 45 pizza eating folks (I'll update count a bit after 6:00 A.M.). Anyway, here's information on the present "base order" (for 29 to 31 people), and also matrix to cover adjusting order from 29 to 81 people. North Beach Pizza, "Base" order - for ~30 (29 to 31) people: (all pizzas, large) 2 North Beach Special 2 Barbary Coast Special 2 Aloha Special 2 Vegetarian Special 1 Plain Cheese 1 half tray big salad (dressings on the side) adjustments for more people - range of people & pizza counts (salad and Plain Cheese stays the same): 29 32 35 39 42 45 49 52 55 59 62 65 69 72 75 79 range of people - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - eating 31 34 38 41 44 48 51 54 58 61 64 68 71 74 78 81 pizza 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 total large pizzas: 2 3 4 4 5 5 6 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 10 10 North Beach Special 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 5 Barbary Coast Special 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 Aloha Special 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 Vegetarian Special 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Plain Cheese 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 half tray big salad order details: All pizzas include mozzarella cheese and tomato sauce, unless stated otherwise. North Beach Special (Pepperoni, green pepper, sausage, mushrooms and onions) Barbary Coast Special (BBQ Sauce, Chicken, Bacon Pieces, Green Onions & Red Onions) Aloha Special (Canadian bacon, ham, and pineapple) Vegetarian Special (Fresh tomatoes, green peppers, onions, black olives and mushrooms) Plain Cheese half tray big salad - dressings on the side complimentary and requested: Paper Plates & Napkins (& bowls for salad) Plastic Utensils Crushed Red Pepper Parmesan Cheese http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2008-September/00060… http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2008-September/date.…

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Re: [BALUG-Admin] pizza RSVP cutoff time 6:00 A.M. 2008-09-16
by Michael Paoli 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

I'll give them a 6:00 A.M. cutoff on the RSVPs for pizza ... that'll still allow me enough time to adjust the running total and at least use that as base order early tomorrow morning. *Might* be able to adjust it a bit after that (pizza place will still take adjustments before noon) ... but I may not have time and opportunity to review RSVPs after that time and make subsequent adjustments to the order.

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Re: [BALUG-Admin] BALUG 2008-09-16 meeting
by Michael Paoli 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Andrew, Per our communications yesterday regarding BALUG 2008-09-16 meeting: Web site tweaks. Per your suggestion, - I did add Songbird (and link) to the address where we have it show on our main web page. Additionally, I tweaked the Google map URL slightly, so it does now also show with a label for the location (giving date, time, event, etc.) $10.00 (instead of $13.00) charged for dinner? - let me know if you definitely want to (and can) run with $10.00 (instead of $13.00) and if we're absolutely going with pizza, and I'll make those updates to the web site too (see also details about pizza and cost estimates further below). If you want, can also mention in announcements something like: $<price> for dinner (North Beach Pizza - "San Francisco's Most Awarded", sodas, and some salad). Announcements, etc. - "encouraging" RSVPs ... perhaps some wording roughly* like: If you're intending to come, *PLEASE* RSVP (to rsvp(a)balug.org) for our 2008-09-16 meeting (and if at all possible, by not later than 11:00 A.M. that day), as we'll want to appropriately size our timely pizza delivery, *and*, in the unlikely event RSVPs exceed capacity (this venue has likely ample but somewhat less space than our regular meeting venue), we'd like to be able to update folks if and when we might not have the capacity to accommodate them. If we encounter a resource/space issue, PRIORITY will go to those who RSVP and SHOW UP ON TIME (meeting starts at 6:30 P.M.). *okay, so it could perhaps use some better marketing+"encouragement" touches, but I did say "roughly" :-) Sodas - another *possibility* occurred to me - that might work better than you or someone from Untangle dragging a bunch of chilled cans to the meeting from Untangle: *IF*, by chance, Songbird happens to do free beverages (most notably canned sodas) for their employees and regularly stocks such, perhaps with your contacts there, it might be feasible to arrange: o Have them stock up and chill a somewhat larger supply for BALUG 2008-09-16 than they might otherwise stock and have chilled and on-hand (e.g. increase by whatever they would typically consume of sodas in a typically day multiplied by 75 and divided by number of employees they have at that location) o BALUG folks there that are paying for dinner get sodas as they wish to consume there, from above mentioned chilled stock, o "we" (BALUG) reimburse (and possibly even front an estimate) costs to Songbird of sodas or estimated sodas consumed by BALUG at some agreed upon rate (e.g. some set amount per can consumed (and count cans taken) based on Songbird's approximate costs, or based upon an estimated consumption (e.g. say 1.3 cans per BALUG paid dinner attendee)). The above would have the advantages of avoiding having cans schlepped from Untangle to BALUG meeting (and excess schlepped back or otherwise dealt with). Also, if Songbird's interested, could also ask them if they would simply want to sponsor/donate the sodas. Pizza(!) :-) ... I did call North Beach Pizza (1-415-433-2444), and do some planning/estimation for an order. My rough calculations have us coming out at a bit under $10.00/head (over $9.00/head), including tax, but not including tip or any beverages. I got a ballpark recommended estimate from them of 15 large pizzas for 50 people, plus a modest bit of salad (much less than the recommended salad amount I got from them on the phone - but I was guestimating between 75% and 80% of folks would mostly to entirely skip the salad). For salad estimate, I tossed in one of their half tray "big" salads (says serves 10 to 12, but I'm not sure if that amount is for the half, or full tray). If we have more, or less people, we can adjust order size for 6:30 P.M. / 6:45 P.M. delivery as long as we get order adjustments to them before noon. Manager wasn't available when I called - can probably get hold of manager at some other time, and refine food sizing and order lead-time (and order change/adjustment lead-time) requirements a bit better - but those are likely fairly accurate ballpark estimates. At this time they've got my name and (my work) number, and the event address, date, and approximate delivery time (I told them between 6:30 P.M. and 6:45 P.M.). We should probably change the contact name/number as we get closer (e.g. so they can call you on your cellular). Pizza types - I'd recommend we keep it fairly simple for us, our attendees, and the restaurant - they have their "House Specials" pizzas - I'd recommend we pick among those (they're probably much more familiar with cranking those out fairly fast without confusion or error), and keep the number of distinct types we get fairly small (somewhat less choice will be faster and more efficient, as folks will pick and grab what they want more quickly, as compared to mulling over 6 or 8 different types to pick from, less choices also work better if we end up a bit crowded with people in our space there and where and how we lay out the pizzas). Among dietary considerations, reasonable accommodations, etc., we'll likely have moderate percentage of vegetarians, others that come up frequently/occasionally and are fairly easy to accommodate: allergy to mushrooms and allergy to black pepper (the latter probably not an issue for these). Most anything else that comes up will either work with at least one of the pizzas we select (or salad), or be too incompatible such that they'd typically not go for our group dining arrangement anyway. For approximately 3 or so types, I might suggest/recommend, and sizing for 50 for now (can adjust quantities up to noon that day): unless otherwise stated, all pizzas include mozzarella and tomato sauce, numbers are qty. suggestions (for 50 people), pizza sizes large: For the carnivores/omnivores: 8 North Beach Special (Pepperoni, green pepper, sausage, mushrooms and onions) (or alternatively (and more carnivorously inclined): 8 Coit Tower Special (Mushrooms, sausage, salami, and pepperoni) ) something different, likely pretty popular, and sans mushrooms: 4 Barbary Coast Special (BBQ Sauce, Chicken, Bacon Pieces, Green Onions & Red Onions) (or alternatively: 4 Aloha Special (Canadian bacon, ham, and pineapple) ) vegetarians (and omnivores can also eat it): 3 Vegetarian Special (Fresh tomatoes, green peppers, onions, black olives and mushrooms) and vegetarian and to round things out: 1 Half (or possibly Full?) Tray Big Salad (dressings on the side) and also ask for (complimentary): Parmesan and crushed red pepper condiments adequate for pizzas ordered; paper plates, napkins for anticipated folks (non-sharable - round up) utensils/bowls (e.g. for up to 25% to eat salad, random person that wants to cut a slice of pizza in half, etc.) Other random notes: their large pizzas are 16" (or so they claim), they slice the large ones into 16 slices (at 15 pizzas for 50 people, that's 4.8 slices (32% of a pie) average per person - likely a pretty good ample, but not (too) excessive estimate (seems likely about right for dinner, with alternatives being soda and salad with most folks passing on the salad); I've had their pizza once before - pretty/rather good quality (definitely pretty well above average! :-))), crusts are fair thickness (not thin), topping quantities are rather generous (and being rather good, generous quantities will disappear in front of a hungry crowd a bit faster than one might guess, at least compared to the more run-of-the-mill/average pizza delivered in a box). http://www.northbeachpizza.com/ http://www.northbeachpizza.com/menu.htm San Francisco Giants - schedule currently has them at away game on 2008-09-16 - so that's much better than a home game, particularly for our meeting venue that day.

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Re: [BALUG-Admin] Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? *Ian Murdock
by Andrew Fife 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Hi Beth: great News! The meeting location is at Songbird's office: Second Floor 585 Howard St. (near 2nd St.) San Francisco, CA 94105-3032 Folks will tend to show up between 6:30pm & 7pm. We'll probably aim to for Ian to speak around 7:30pm. Does that work? Any idea what time Ian will aim to arrive? My cell is 415.806.6028 in case Ian needs a contact for any last minute issues or questions. -Andrew ________________________________________ From: Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM [Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:54 PM To: Andrew Fife Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? *Ian Murdock This time should work. For some reason, I had 2pm down. Can you re-send logistics or any details that I can pass on to Ian. thanks! beth afife(a)untangle.com wrote: > Meeting starts @ 6:30pm but speaker doesn't start until after dinner... > Usually 7:30... Butt we can be flexible. > > --Sent from my phone-- > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Beth Basco <Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM> wrote: > >> What's the exact time that he's needed in SF? >> >> Andrew Fife wrote: >>> Beth: >>> To be frank, at this point, it does cause us a big problem. Does the >>> meeting extend into the evening? Is there any way Ian can make it? >>> -Andrew >>> -- >>> Andrew Fife >>> Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway >>> www.untangle.com/download >>> 650.425.3327 desk >>> 415.806.6028 cell >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM [mailto:Beth.Basco@Sun.COM]>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:43 PM >>> To: Andrew Fife >>> Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? *Ian Murdock >>> Andrew, >>> Here I am again.. For some reason, there's an all day mtg on 9/16 that I >>> missed to add to Ian's calendar so we need to cancel again. I hope this >>> won't cause any problem. >>> beth >>> Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > Beth: >>> > >>> > Sure, no problem. Ian is back on for 9/16. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > Andrew >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Andrew Fife >>> > Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway >>> > www.untangle.com/download >>> > >>> > 650.425.3327 desk >>> > 415.806.6028 cell >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM [mailto:Beth.Basco@Sun.COM] >>> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:20 PM >>> > To: Andrew Fife >>> > Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? *Ian Murdock >>> > >>> > Andrew, >>> > >>> > Can I request back Sept 16th pls? >>> > >>> > beth >>> > >>> > Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > Hi Beth: >>> > > >>> > > Sure, we could try Tuesday, October 21st. How does that work with >>> > > Ian's schedule? >>> > > >>> > > -Andrew >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Andrew Fife >>> > > Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway >>> www.untangle.com/download >>> > > >>> > > 650.425.3327 desk >>> > > 415.806.6028 cell >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM [mailto:Beth.Basco@Sun.COM] >>> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:49 AM >>> > > To: Andrew Fife >>> > > Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? *Ian Murdock >>> > > >>> > > Andrew, >>> > > >>> > > Sept 16th no longer works for Ian. Any other open slots? >>> > > >>> > > beth >>> > > >>> > > Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > > Beth: >>> > > > >>> > > > yes, no problem. I will put Ian down for Sept. 16th. Please >>> let >>> > > me know if you need to reschedule. >>> > > > >>> > > > kind regards, >>> > > > >>> > > > Andrew >>> > > > >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > From: "Beth Basco" <Beth.Basco(a)Sun.COM> > To: "Andrew Fife" >>> > > <afife(a)untangle.com> > Cc: "Ian Murdock" <Ian.Murdock(a)Sun.COM> > >>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 11:31:14 PM (GMT-0800) > >>> > > America/Los_Angeles > Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? >>> > > > >>> > > > Andrew, >>> > > > >>> > > > As of now, it looks more like Sept 18. Can you hold? >>> > > > >>> > > > beth >>> > > > >>> > > > Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> Ian: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> I'm sorry that was a typo on my part. Eric Allman is >>> speaking at >>> > > the >> April meeting and I copied and pasted the speaker lineup >>> out >>> > > of a >> message that I sent to him. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Would August 19th work for you? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Kind regards, >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Andrew >>> > > >> >>> > > >> ---------------------------------------- >>> > > >> Andrew Fife >>> > > >> Untangle - Open Source Security Gateway >>> download.untangle.com >> >>> > > >> 650.425.3327 (O) >> 415.806.6028 (C) >> afife(a)untangle.com >> >>> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ian.Murdock(a)Sun.COM >>> > > [mailto:Ian.Murdock@Sun.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 >>> > > 1:17 PM >> To: Andrew Fife >> Cc: 'Beth Basco' >>> > > >> Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> When is the April meeting? -ian >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> Hi Ian & Beth: >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> This is a quick note to touch base about 2008 speaking >>> > > opportunities >>> at BALUG. Are you available to speak at our >>> August >>> > > 19th meeting in >>> San Francisco? Here is our current line up of >>> > speakers: >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Jan = Eric S. Raymond >>> > > >>> Feb = Bruce Perens >>> > > >>> March = Mark Shuttleworth >>> > > >>> April = You! >>> > > >>> May = Jeremy Allison >>> > > >>> June = Andrew Morton >>> > > >>> July = Mike Linksvayer >>> > > >>> Aug 19th = Open >>> > > >>> Sept 16th = Open >>> > > >>> Oct 21st = Open >>> > > >>> Nov 18th = Open >>> > > >>> Dec = No Meeting >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> We also have commitments from Guido van Rossum to speak in >>> 2008 >>> > > but >>> haven't yet finalized a specific date. We'd love to >>> have you >>> > > speak >>> on >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>> > > >> any >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> of our open dates. >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Kind regards, >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Andrew >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> > > >>> Andrew Fife >>> > > >>> Untangle - Open Source Security Gateway download.untangle.com >>> > > >>> >>> 650.425.3327 (O) >>> 415.806.6028 (C) >>> >>> > > afife(a)untangle.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: >>> > > Ian.Murdock(a)Sun.COM [mailto:Ian.Murdock@Sun.COM] >>> Sent: Monday, >>> > > October 01, 2007 5:18 AM >>> To: Andrew Fife >>> Cc: 'Beth Basco' >>> > > >>> Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> I'm not going to know till later in the year, but we will get >>> > > back >>> to you. -ian >>> >>> Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>> Hi Ian & Beth: >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> That is great news, we are very excited to have you as a >>> speaker! >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Beth: >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Would any of these dates in early 2008 work? >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, March 18th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, April 15th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, May 20th >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> If not, here is the calendar for the rest of the year: >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, June 17th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, July 15th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, August 19th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, September 16th >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, October 21st >>> > > >>>> Tuesday, November 18th >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Kind regards, >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Andrew >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >>> > > >>>> From: Ian.Murdock(a)Sun.COM [mailto:Ian.Murdock@Sun.COM] >>>> >>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:17 AM >>>> To: Andrew Fife >>> >>>> >>> > > Cc: Beth Basco >>>> Subject: Re: Speaking @ BALUG in 2008? >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Hi Andrew, >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Sure. Not sure what my travel schedule looks like yet into >>> 2008, >>> > > >>>> but >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>> > > >> I'm >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>>> sure one of those dates can work. Beth Basco (CC'ed) can help >>> > > line >>>> it >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>> > > >> up >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>>> -ian >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> Andrew Fife wrote: >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>>> Hello Ian: >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> I was wondering if you would like to speak at the Bay Area >>> > > Linux >>>>> Users Group (BALUG) in early 2008. >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> We are trying to line up a blockbuster schedule of >>> speakers and we >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>> would >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>>> be honored if you were able to participate. So far we have >>> > Eric S. >>> > > >>>>> Raymond and Bruce Perens confirmed as speakers in January >>> and >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >> February. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>>>> Would you consider speaking in March, April or May? I >>> think it >>> > > >>>>> would >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>> be >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>> a >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>>> great place to evangelize about what you are up to at Sun. >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> The exact dates are: >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> Tuesday, March 18th >>> > > >>>>> Tuesday, April 15th >>> > > >>>>> Tuesday, May 20th >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> BALUG still meets at the Four Seas Restaurant, which is >>> located >>> > > at >>>>> 731 Grant Avenue in San Francisco's Chinatown. Attendees >>> > > gather >>>>> in the restaurant bar from 6:30pm. At 7pm >>> everyone sits >>> > > down for >>>>> a family >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>> style >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>>> Chinese dinner and speaker's talks follow the meal. >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> Kind regards, >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> Andrew >>> > > >>>>> ---------------------------- >>> > > >>>>> Andrew Fife >>> > > >>>>> Product Marketing Manager >>> > > >>>>> Untangle >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >> -- >>> > > >> Ian Murdock >>> > > >> http://ianmurdock.com/ >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." --Juan >>> Ramón >>> > > >> Jiménez >> >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Beth Basco >>> > > Exec Administrator >>> > > to Ian Murdock >>> > > VP-Developer & Community Mktg >>> > > 510.315.5563 / x32544 >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Beth Basco >>> > Exec Administrator >>> > to Ian Murdock >>> > VP-Developer & Community Mktg >>> > 510.315.5563 / x32544 >>> > >>> -- >>> Beth Basco >>> Exec Administrator >>> to Ian Murdock >>> VP-Developer & Community Mktg >>> 510.315.5563 / x32544 >> >> >> -- >> Beth Basco >> Exec Administrator >> to Ian Murdock >> VP-Developer & Community Mktg >> 510.315.5563 / x32544 -- Beth Basco Exec Administrator to Ian Murdock VP-Developer & Community Mktg 510.315.5563 / x32544

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