Quoting rick (rick):
A couple of months ago, Larry was kind enough to give me the changed administrative password -- which he said had to be changed because one of the listadmins inadvertantly revealed the old one on one of the public lists. So, as mentioned, I am (once again) physically _able_ to tweak any of the settings -- but would not do so except in close consultation with other listadmins.
OK, I've acted just a tiny bit, in the areas where I think we're all in agreement. Why? Because I noticed another jobs listing in the moderation queue for balug-announce. This one was:
X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Systems Engineer and Sales Engineer positions, San Francisco ISP Thread-Index: AcaOQanLzTKYPCmrQ9e7k+ZirPYeJg== From: "David Hecht" david@servepath.com To: balug-announce@lists.balug.org Message-ID: S1Fpplq-000883-Lg@smtp1.servepath.com
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Since we don't know who's been approving such postings recently, I felt I should step in (and, hey, I _am_ a listadmin) to politely turn it down, as the first thing. Here's my reject text:
Despite a recent error by one of the moderators, balug-announce is NOT a jobs mailing list, and is not intended to be open to postings by the general public: It's primarily intended as a means to announce upcoming BALUG meetings to the membership.
That having been done, I addressed one of the omissions that created this situation in the first place: The "terse phraes identifying the list" (shown near the top of the listinfo page) now reads:
Announcements for and by BALUG
The "introductory paragraph" below that on the same listinfo page now says:
This is a low-volume announce-only (non-discussion) mailing list primarily for BALUG's meeting announcements to its members. Please send any other announcement to the moderators at balug-announce-owner@lists.balug.org, and they'll decide whether to post it.
The membership roster is open to all listmembers.
I've also made a couple of other changes that I hope will be non-controversial. (Listadmins are welcome to revise my changes.)
"(Administrivia filter) Check postings and intercept ones that seem to be administrative requests?": Changed from No to Yes.
"Discard held messages older than this number of days. Use 0 for no automatic discarding.": Changed from 0 to 7.
On balug-talk, "terse phrase" is now:
General discussion list for BALUG
"Introductory paragraph" is:
This is a public discussion mailing list for Bay Area Linux User Group, which meets monthly in Chinatown, San Francisco.
Postings are publicly archived, and the membership roster is available to any subscriber.
And I duplicated the other two changes cited above for balug-announce.
On balug-admin (this list), "terse phrase" is now:
Discussion among those who make BALUG work
"Introductory paragraph" is:
This is a low-traffic public mailing list among BALUG members who run its Web site and mailing lists, find speakers/topics for its monthly meetings in Chinatown, San Francisco, and run those meetings. All interested or curious people are quite welcome, but this is a working rather than social forum.
Posts are publicly archived, and the membership roster is available to any member.
Again, I duplicated the other two changes cited above for balug-announce.
On all three lists, I also added my e-mail address to the "nagmail" roster.