Andrew,
Per our communications yesterday regarding BALUG 2008-09-16 meeting:
Web site tweaks. Per your suggestion, - I did add Songbird (and link) to the address where we have it show on our main web page. Additionally, I tweaked the Google map URL slightly, so it does now also show with a label for the location (giving date, time, event, etc.) $10.00 (instead of $13.00) charged for dinner? - let me know if you definitely want to (and can) run with $10.00 (instead of $13.00) and if we're absolutely going with pizza, and I'll make those updates to the web site too (see also details about pizza and cost estimates further below). If you want, can also mention in announcements something like: $<price> for dinner (North Beach Pizza - "San Francisco's Most Awarded", sodas, and some salad).
Announcements, etc. - "encouraging" RSVPs ... perhaps some wording roughly* like: If you're intending to come, *PLEASE* RSVP (to rsvp@balug.org) for our 2008-09-16 meeting (and if at all possible, by not later than 11:00 A.M. that day), as we'll want to appropriately size our timely pizza delivery, *and*, in the unlikely event RSVPs exceed capacity (this venue has likely ample but somewhat less space than our regular meeting venue), we'd like to be able to update folks if and when we might not have the capacity to accommodate them. If we encounter a resource/space issue, PRIORITY will go to those who RSVP and SHOW UP ON TIME (meeting starts at 6:30 P.M.). *okay, so it could perhaps use some better marketing+"encouragement" touches, but I did say "roughly" :-)
Sodas - another *possibility* occurred to me - that might work better than you or someone from Untangle dragging a bunch of chilled cans to the meeting from Untangle: *IF*, by chance, Songbird happens to do free beverages (most notably canned sodas) for their employees and regularly stocks such, perhaps with your contacts there, it might be feasible to arrange: o Have them stock up and chill a somewhat larger supply for BALUG 2008-09-16 than they might otherwise stock and have chilled and on-hand (e.g. increase by whatever they would typically consume of sodas in a typically day multiplied by 75 and divided by number of employees they have at that location) o BALUG folks there that are paying for dinner get sodas as they wish to consume there, from above mentioned chilled stock, o "we" (BALUG) reimburse (and possibly even front an estimate) costs to Songbird of sodas or estimated sodas consumed by BALUG at some agreed upon rate (e.g. some set amount per can consumed (and count cans taken) based on Songbird's approximate costs, or based upon an estimated consumption (e.g. say 1.3 cans per BALUG paid dinner attendee)). The above would have the advantages of avoiding having cans schlepped from Untangle to BALUG meeting (and excess schlepped back or otherwise dealt with). Also, if Songbird's interested, could also ask them if they would simply want to sponsor/donate the sodas.
Pizza(!) :-) ... I did call North Beach Pizza (1-415-433-2444), and do some planning/estimation for an order. My rough calculations have us coming out at a bit under $10.00/head (over $9.00/head), including tax, but not including tip or any beverages. I got a ballpark recommended estimate from them of 15 large pizzas for 50 people, plus a modest bit of salad (much less than the recommended salad amount I got from them on the phone - but I was guestimating between 75% and 80% of folks would mostly to entirely skip the salad). For salad estimate, I tossed in one of their half tray "big" salads (says serves 10 to 12, but I'm not sure if that amount is for the half, or full tray). If we have more, or less people, we can adjust order size for 6:30 P.M. / 6:45 P.M. delivery as long as we get order adjustments to them before noon. Manager wasn't available when I called - can probably get hold of manager at some other time, and refine food sizing and order lead-time (and order change/adjustment lead-time) requirements a bit better - but those are likely fairly accurate ballpark estimates. At this time they've got my name and (my work) number, and the event address, date, and approximate delivery time (I told them between 6:30 P.M. and 6:45 P.M.). We should probably change the contact name/number as we get closer (e.g. so they can call you on your cellular). Pizza types - I'd recommend we keep it fairly simple for us, our attendees, and the restaurant - they have their "House Specials" pizzas - I'd recommend we pick among those (they're probably much more familiar with cranking those out fairly fast without confusion or error), and keep the number of distinct types we get fairly small (somewhat less choice will be faster and more efficient, as folks will pick and grab what they want more quickly, as compared to mulling over 6 or 8 different types to pick from, less choices also work better if we end up a bit crowded with people in our space there and where and how we lay out the pizzas). Among dietary considerations, reasonable accommodations, etc., we'll likely have moderate percentage of vegetarians, others that come up frequently/occasionally and are fairly easy to accommodate: allergy to mushrooms and allergy to black pepper (the latter probably not an issue for these). Most anything else that comes up will either work with at least one of the pizzas we select (or salad), or be too incompatible such that they'd typically not go for our group dining arrangement anyway. For approximately 3 or so types, I might suggest/recommend, and sizing for 50 for now (can adjust quantities up to noon that day): unless otherwise stated, all pizzas include mozzarella and tomato sauce, numbers are qty. suggestions (for 50 people), pizza sizes large: For the carnivores/omnivores: 8 North Beach Special (Pepperoni, green pepper, sausage, mushrooms and onions) (or alternatively (and more carnivorously inclined): 8 Coit Tower Special (Mushrooms, sausage, salami, and pepperoni) ) something different, likely pretty popular, and sans mushrooms: 4 Barbary Coast Special (BBQ Sauce, Chicken, Bacon Pieces, Green Onions & Red Onions) (or alternatively: 4 Aloha Special (Canadian bacon, ham, and pineapple) ) vegetarians (and omnivores can also eat it): 3 Vegetarian Special (Fresh tomatoes, green peppers, onions, black olives and mushrooms) and vegetarian and to round things out: 1 Half (or possibly Full?) Tray Big Salad (dressings on the side) and also ask for (complimentary): Parmesan and crushed red pepper condiments adequate for pizzas ordered; paper plates, napkins for anticipated folks (non-sharable - round up) utensils/bowls (e.g. for up to 25% to eat salad, random person that wants to cut a slice of pizza in half, etc.) Other random notes: their large pizzas are 16" (or so they claim), they slice the large ones into 16 slices (at 15 pizzas for 50 people, that's 4.8 slices (32% of a pie) average per person - likely a pretty good ample, but not (too) excessive estimate (seems likely about right for dinner, with alternatives being soda and salad with most folks passing on the salad); I've had their pizza once before - pretty/rather good quality (definitely pretty well above average! :-))), crusts are fair thickness (not thin), topping quantities are rather generous (and being rather good, generous quantities will disappear in front of a hungry crowd a bit faster than one might guess, at least compared to the more run-of-the-mill/average pizza delivered in a box). http://www.northbeachpizza.com/ http://www.northbeachpizza.com/menu.htm
San Francisco Giants - schedule currently has them at away game on 2008-09-16 - so that's much better than a home game, particularly for our meeting venue that day.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu wrote:
8 Coit Tower Special (Mushrooms, sausage, salami, and pepperoni)
Yes, in my experience it is good to provide an option free of onions and peppers, as some folks find those a bit intense (green onions possibly excepted). Other appropriate choices: San Francisco Special, Aloha Special, Cable Car Special (looks interesting), Amigo Special, Margarita Special (vegetarian). Thanks for looking into this Michael!
I posted a link to this event on Upcoming.org. Please let me know if any text needs to be changed.
you may have tho't it out already, but it seems to me the message might benefit from a prominent note (like a sidebar or bold text at bottom or some such) that reminds those who are used to things that this meeting will not be at four seas.
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 14:34 -0700, Jesse Zbikowski wrote:
I posted a link to this event on Upcoming.org. Please let me know if any text needs to be changed.
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On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:59 AM, jim jim@well.com wrote:
the message might benefit from a prominent note (like a sidebar or bold text at bottom or some such) that reminds those who are used to things that this meeting will not be at four seas.
Thanks, I added this note to the post. PS, we only need 6 more Yahoo and/or Upcoming users to mark this event to make it the #1 thing to do in SF on Tuesday :)