as to Ed Cherlin on OLPC with respect to the Marvell presenter, I've seen no other responses. What say I try to get Ed for this coming May meeting and we'll get someone from Marvell a few months later? Time's getting tight, lemme know, please. This'll be my default action by Friday of this week. thanks, jim
On Apr 27, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:
Quoting Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com:
On 4/27/07, jim stockford jim@well.com wrote:
Ed Cherlin is willing to talk on the One Laptop Per Child project. What say? Who's working on getting speakers? Anything committed at this point?
This sounds great. How soon can we confirm?
I will also email my contact at Marvell (Scott McCormack) who wants to send a presenter to talk about OLPC. Would it be better to have (a) both on the same night, (b) back-to-back months, or (c) space 'em out?
Other perspective probably vary, ... but I'd tend to think either have them present both the same night, or space them out by at least a few months or more - at *least* if the areas covered by the presentation are rather similar or overlap a lot.
My guestimate is if we have two consecutive meetings on topic/presentation that's "too similar", we'd probably get sub-optimal attendance for either or both meetings.
Anyway, just my perspective/guestimate. I can come up with some other plausable theories/perspectives, but I'm guesstimating what I already noted above is likely the more plausible and probable.
On Tue, 1 May 2007, jim stockford wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:39:21 -0700 From: jim stockford jim@well.com To: Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu Cc: Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com, balug-admin@lists.balug.org, Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com, John Mark Walker johnmark@johnmark.org, Dick Verna rverna01@comcast.net
as to Ed Cherlin on OLPC with respect to the Marvell presenter, I've seen no other responses. What say I try to get Ed for this coming May meeting and we'll get someone from Marvell a few months later? Time's getting tight, lemme know, please. This'll be my default action by Friday of this week. thanks, jim
On Apr 27, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:
Quoting Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com:
On 4/27/07, jim stockford jim@well.com wrote:
Ed Cherlin is willing to talk on the One Laptop Per Child project. What say? Who's working on getting speakers? Anything committed at this point?
This sounds great. How soon can we confirm?
I will also email my contact at Marvell (Scott McCormack) who wants to send a presenter to talk about OLPC. Would it be better to have (a) both on the same night, (b) back-to-back months, or (c) space 'em out?
Other perspective probably vary, ... but I'd tend to think either have them present both the same night, or space them out by at least a few months or more - at *least* if the areas covered by the presentation are rather similar or overlap a lot.
My guestimate is if we have two consecutive meetings on topic/presentation that's "too similar", we'd probably get sub-optimal attendance for either or both meetings.
Anyway, just my perspective/guestimate. I can come up with some other plausable theories/perspectives, but I'm guesstimating what I already noted above is likely the more plausible and probable.
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com
On 5/1/07, Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com wrote:
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Yep; the Marvell guys have not responded yet so that may sit in the pipeline a while. Can I go ahead and promote this as an Ed Cherlin/OLPC event?
On Tue, 1 May 2007, Jesse Zbikowski wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:04:31 -0700 From: Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com To: Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com Cc: jim stockford jim@well.com, Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu, balug-admin@lists.balug.org, John Mark Walker johnmark@johnmark.org, Dick Verna rverna01@comcast.net Subject: Re: your mail
On 5/1/07, Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com wrote:
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Yep; the Marvell guys have not responded yet so that may sit in the pipeline a while. Can I go ahead and promote this as an Ed Cherlin/OLPC event?
Jesse if Jim confirms that Ed Cherlin will present in May then go ahead and promote the event.
Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com
When promoting it (or other BALUG meetings), *please* use 7:00 P.M. as the primary time mentioned regarding the meeting and such.
7:10 P.M. isn't the meeting/dinner start time - that's our cut-off time for dinner - if one doesn't make it by 7:10 P.M., there are no assurances one will be able to join us in our "family style" dinner and/or that we'll be able to get one seated with us.
If 7:10 P.M. is mentioned at all in "promoting" it and such, it ought to say something to the effect that that's the cut-off time for dinner (e.g. the BALUG website presently states it as "Dinner starts promptly at 7:10 PM", or one could state something like: "Be sure to arrive to dinner *before* 7:10 P.M. to ensure you will be able to join us for dinner.").
We do need to move things along pretty much by that schedule (seat folks right around 7:00 P.M., money collected and food starts to flow right around 7:10 P.M.) to allow reasonable time for talk/presentation, and to also avoid awkward table situation (e.g. tables are nicely to rather full - and more folks keep trickling in when the tables are already full and everyone else has already paid up (except the speaker :-)) and is starting to eat.)
Thanks, everyone.
Quoting Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com:
On Tue, 1 May 2007, Jesse Zbikowski wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:04:31 -0700 From: Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com To: Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com Cc: jim stockford jim@well.com, Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu, balug-admin@lists.balug.org, John Mark Walker
Dick Verna <rverna01@comcast.net>Subject: Re: your mail
On 5/1/07, Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com wrote:
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Yep; the Marvell guys have not responded yet so that may sit in the pipeline a while. Can I go ahead and promote this as an Ed Cherlin/OLPC event?
Jesse if Jim confirms that Ed Cherlin will present in May then go ahead and promote the event.
Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com
Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu):
When promoting it (or other BALUG meetings), *please* use 7:00 P.M. as the primary time mentioned regarding the meeting and such.
I recommend keeping it simple, by sticking to that.
If you start talking about 7:10 pm, regardless of what you say about it, a certain percentage of people will _think_ 7:10 pm, show up 5-10 minutes after that, and act aggrieved.
So, just consistently say "before 7:00 PM".
maybe let 'em know 6:30 is bar time, i.e. 6:30 to 7:00, gathering to chat, 7:00 herd to the tables.
On May 1, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:
When promoting it (or other BALUG meetings), *please* use 7:00 P.M. as the primary time mentioned regarding the meeting and such.
7:10 P.M. isn't the meeting/dinner start time - that's our cut-off time for dinner - if one doesn't make it by 7:10 P.M., there are no assurances one will be able to join us in our "family style" dinner and/or that we'll be able to get one seated with us.
If 7:10 P.M. is mentioned at all in "promoting" it and such, it ought to say something to the effect that that's the cut-off time for dinner (e.g. the BALUG website presently states it as "Dinner starts promptly at 7:10 PM", or one could state something like: "Be sure to arrive to dinner *before* 7:10 P.M. to ensure you will be able to join us for dinner.").
We do need to move things along pretty much by that schedule (seat folks right around 7:00 P.M., money collected and food starts to flow right around 7:10 P.M.) to allow reasonable time for talk/presentation, and to also avoid awkward table situation (e.g. tables are nicely to rather full - and more folks keep trickling in when the tables are already full and everyone else has already paid up (except the speaker :-)) and is starting to eat.)
Thanks, everyone.
Quoting Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com:
On Tue, 1 May 2007, Jesse Zbikowski wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:04:31 -0700 From: Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com To: Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com Cc: jim stockford jim@well.com, Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu, balug-admin@lists.balug.org, John Mark Walker
Dick Verna <rverna01@comcast.net>Subject: Re: your mail
On 5/1/07, Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com wrote:
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Yep; the Marvell guys have not responded yet so that may sit in the pipeline a while. Can I go ahead and promote this as an Ed Cherlin/OLPC event?
Jesse if Jim confirms that Ed Cherlin will present in May then go ahead and promote the event.
Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com
balug-admin mailing list balug-admin@lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-admin-balug.org
...er, it is Tuesday, May 15, isn't it?
I think someone else will put up notice on the web site, if possible. I'll be glad to write up and post notice to the mailing list (and a couple of other groups' mailing lists, too). note: he's gonna bring one to demo!
Here's my correspondence with Edward: ---------------------------
many thanks. the offer for rides to and/or from still stands.
http://www.fourseasr.com/ is on 731 grant near sacramento street.
there's usually one or two people in the bar shortly after 6:30 and typically most everyone is in the bar area by 7:00, then to the tables for dinner.
jim stockford 415 823 4590
On May 2, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
You're on. I'll bring the XO to demonstrate, and talk about some of the consequences I foresee.
On 5/1/07, jim stockford jim@well.com wrote:
We at BALUG.ORG are hoping you're up for talking about OLPC at our meeting on Tuesday May 15. Come to the Four Seas restaurant between 6:30 and 7:00 for drinks and chats. Dinner's at 7:00. You'd be on at around 7:45 and talk will 9:00-ish, when the staff starts hanging around making "err" and "umm" noises. Lemme know either way, please. jim stockford 415 823 4590 my cellphone, call anytime PS: your dinner's on us, natch. PPS: you want a ride from anywhere either before and/or after, let me know.
Do we have some suitable text blurbs to write up promoting the speaker/presentation? About a paragraph or so would be handy. Then I could get that included and written up and sent out to the balug "announce" list ... could put out a notice similar to ones I/we have done recently, e.g. like: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-announce-balug.org/2007-April/000085.... Anyone have any other noteworthy BALUG stuff to include in or include a reference to (e.g. link) for the BALUG announcement?
Also, so long as we're still completely unable to update the existing BALUG website (http://www.balug.org/) is there any use even bothering to mention it (or include it's URL) in the BALUG announcement(s)?
And yes, it's the 15th (almost always 3rd Tuesday).
Quoting jim stockford jim@well.com:
...er, it is Tuesday, May 15, isn't it?
I think someone else will put up notice on theweb site, if possible. I'll be glad to write up and post notice to the mailing list (and a couple of other groups' mailing lists, too). note: he's gonna bring one to demo!
Here's my correspondence with Edward:
many thanks. the offer for rides to and/or from still stands.
http://www.fourseasr.com/ is on 731 grant near sacramento street.
there's usually one or two people in the bar shortly after 6:30 and typically most everyone is in the bar area by 7:00, then to the tables for dinner.
jim stockford 415 823 4590
On May 2, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
You're on. I'll bring the XO to demonstrate, and talk about some of the consequences I foresee.
On 5/1/07, jim stockford jim@well.com wrote:
We at BALUG.ORG are hoping you're up for talking about OLPC at our meeting on Tuesday May 15. Come to the Four Seas restaurant between 6:30 and 7:00 for drinks and chats. Dinner's at 7:00. You'd be on at around 7:45 and talk will 9:00-ish, when the staff starts hanging around making "err" and "umm" noises. Lemme know either way, please. jim stockford 415 823 4590 my cellphone, call anytime PS: your dinner's on us, natch. PPS: you want a ride from anywhere either before and/or after, let me know.
i'm pretty busy today daytime. I'll send Edward email asking for his take on text and hope he'll reply (he's been great on that front). i'll likely have some free time tonight and tomorrow AM and maybe tomorrow night. jim
On May 5, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Michael Paoli wrote:
Do we have some suitable text blurbs to write up promoting the speaker/presentation? About a paragraph or so would be handy. Then I could get that included and written up and sent out to the balug "announce" list ... could put out a notice similar to ones I/we have done recently, e.g. like: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-announce-balug.org/2007-April/ 000085.html Anyone have any other noteworthy BALUG stuff to include in or include a reference to (e.g. link) for the BALUG announcement?
Also, so long as we're still completely unable to update the existing BALUG website (http://www.balug.org/) is there any use even bothering to mention it (or include it's URL) in the BALUG announcement(s)?
And yes, it's the 15th (almost always 3rd Tuesday).
Quoting jim stockford jim@well.com:
...er, it is Tuesday, May 15, isn't it?
I think someone else will put up notice on theweb site, if possible. I'll be glad to write up and post notice to the mailing list (and a couple of other groups' mailing lists, too). note: he's gonna bring one to demo!
Here's my correspondence with Edward:
many thanks. the offer for rides to and/or from still stands.
http://www.fourseasr.com/ is on 731 grant near sacramento street.
there's usually one or two people in the bar shortly after 6:30 and typically most everyone is in the bar area by 7:00, then to the tables for dinner.
jim stockford 415 823 4590
On May 2, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
You're on. I'll bring the XO to demonstrate, and talk about some of the consequences I foresee.
On 5/1/07, jim stockford jim@well.com wrote:
We at BALUG.ORG are hoping you're up for talking about OLPC at our meeting on Tuesday May 15. Come to the Four Seas restaurant between 6:30 and 7:00 for drinks and chats. Dinner's at 7:00. You'd be on at around 7:45 and talk will 9:00-ish, when the staff starts hanging around making "err" and "umm" noises. Lemme know either way, please. jim stockford 415 823 4590 my cellphone, call anytime PS: your dinner's on us, natch. PPS: you want a ride from anywhere either before and/or after, let me know.
I put some text up here:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/186982/
For now this links to my website for BALUG info so there is a link to join the mailing list. This is just temporary until we have another page together.
The One Laptop Per Child project was founded in 2005 by Nicholas Negroponte with a core of MIT Media Lab veterans. Its flagship XO laptop is a unique machine with features created specifically for children of the emerging world. Ed Cherlin, project contributor and author of the forthcoming book "Ending Poverty for Fun and Profit", will talk about the XO and demo its hardware and software. For more information about OLPC see laptop.org and OLPC News.
Great, thanks. I'll use what's been written up, and get the announcement out to the "announce" list later today (probably this evening or tonight). If anyone has any other items that should get mentioned/referenced in that e-mail to the "announce" list, let me know and I can also include (or include reference to) that.
Also, I tweaked the "announce" list very slightly the other day. Details further on down below (after the reference on Jesse's e-mail).
Quoting Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com:
I put some text up here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/186982/
For now this links to my website for BALUG info so there is a link to join the mailing list. This is just temporary until we have another page together.
The One Laptop Per Child project was founded in 2005 by Nicholas Negroponte with a core of MIT Media Lab veterans. Its flagship XO laptop is a unique machine with features created specifically for children of the emerging world. Ed Cherlin, project contributor and author of the forthcoming book "Ending Poverty for Fun and Profit", will talk about the XO and demo its hardware and software. For more information about OLPC see laptop.org and OLPC News.
On the BALUG "announce" list, I disabled the "digest" option, and for those very few subscribers (approximately 2% of our approximately 250 subscribers to "announce") that had the "digest" option set, I cleared that option on their settings. Rationale: * the "announce" list should be sufficiently low volume (typically 1 to a few e-mails per month) that "digest" mode should be relatively unnecessary - especially since it had been set to monthly digests. * "announce" traffic should be sufficiently important, and may be sufficiently time critical that substantial delay (e.g. up to a month) may be problematic (e.g. announcing meeting speaker less than a month in advance, a critical change in meeting close to time of meeting such as substitution of speaker) - such items should generally get delivered in a fairly timely manner (and even "daily" digest may not be sufficiently timely) * for those (if they exist) that really really want to read the "announce" list mostly as historical, and don't want timely updates, the archives are publicly readable.
I haven't disabled "digest" mode or changed its frequency for the "talk" or "admin" lists. Those probably may get "chatty" at time, and (at least some) folks may well want the "digest" option for those (and I don't recall anyone commenting that the "digest" period was too short or too long for those lists - so I haven't even explicitly peeked to see what it's set at on those lists).
Lemme confirm, which I'll start in motion right now. back soon with his reply. jim
On May 1, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Jesse Zbikowski wrote:
On 5/1/07, Larry Platzek larryp@inow.com wrote:
Jim, seems like a good idea to me.
Yep; the Marvell guys have not responded yet so that may sit in the pipeline a while. Can I go ahead and promote this as an Ed Cherlin/OLPC event?