Balug Volunteers:
I just received an RSVP for Balug's December meeting. I replied directly back to the person explaining that there was not December meeting but encouraging them to attend our January meeting an letting them know about a couple other LUGs that are meeting this month.
I think that we should mention on our talk & announce lists that there is no meeting this month. Any objections? If not, I'll do this in the next day or two.
-Andrew
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I was rather planning, probably about a few days or so before the third Tuesday in December, to put out an "announce" item reminding folks that there's no December meeting. We can also use that announcement to promote the January meeting.
Of course we'll want to announce/remind folks about the January meeting in early January ... like about the 2nd or so.
I think if we put out "announce" type items from 3rd Tu in Dec. through about Jan. 1st, may folks will get distracted and forget anway. I'd be inclined to just do a bit before 3rd Tu in Dec., and then nothing again until Jan. 2nd, or a hair later.
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
Balug Volunteers:
I just received an RSVP for Balug's December meeting. I replied directly back to the person explaining that there was not December meeting but encouraging them to attend our January meeting an letting them know about a couple other LUGs that are meeting this month.
I think that we should mention on our talk & announce lists that there is no meeting this month. Any objections? If not, I'll do this in the next day or two.
Michael:
Good input.
How does this modified plan sound for Balug Talk & Announce lists:
1)Announce January meeting with ESR 3 times 2)Use the first announcement to also mention in a side note that there is no Dec meeting... 3)People that RSVP will get an extra final reminder
Schedule of announcements would look something like this:
Week of Dec 9th-15th - First announcement w/ no Dec meeting reminder Week of Jan 6th-12th - Second announcement Jan 14th - 3rd announcement Jan 15th - Reminder to RSVPs only
I like the plan above for the following reasons:
1)Hopefully it will bring BALUG folks out of the woodwork who haven't turned up in a while 2)Reminder to RSVPs will mean we lose far fewer of those who respond to the first announcement in December 3)In retrospect I'm much more concerned about driving attendance in January than I am about announcing "no meeting" for December
-Andrew
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-----Original Message----- From: Michael Paoli [mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:40 PM To: Andrew Fife Cc: balug-admin@lists.balug.org Subject: Re: Announce "No Dec Meeting?"
I was rather planning, probably about a few days or so before the third Tuesday in December, to put out an "announce" item reminding folks that there's no December meeting. We can also use that announcement to promote the January meeting.
Of course we'll want to announce/remind folks about the January meeting in early January ... like about the 2nd or so.
I think if we put out "announce" type items from 3rd Tu in Dec. through about Jan. 1st, may folks will get distracted and forget anway. I'd be inclined to just do a bit before 3rd Tu in Dec., and then nothing again until Jan. 2nd, or a hair later.
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
Balug Volunteers:
I just received an RSVP for Balug's December meeting. I replied
directly
back to the person explaining that there was not December meeting but encouraging them to attend our January meeting an letting them know
about
a couple other LUGs that are meeting this month.
I think that we should mention on our talk & announce lists that there
is
no meeting this month. Any objections? If not, I'll do this in the
next
day or two.
Sounds like a good basic plan.
I was thinking, for the Dec. announce of ESR for Jan., and Dec. "no meeting" announce, perhaps I/we (at least to the BALUG announce list) do two messages - one covering each, in very quick (back-to-back) succession. Folks would be more likely to notice/catch each of the particular parts of note (ESR in Jan., and no Dec. meeting) with them being two separate e-mails. That would also about exhaust our quota of e-mail sends to "announce" for the month ... but that should be fine, as we shouldn't have anything else to send out until next year (say, Jan. 2nd).
For other (non-BALUG) lists/forums, though, should probably be one combined message in Dec (mostly promoting ESR in Jan; no Dec. BALUG meeting is mostly just a "footnote" and not too exiting for folks to read on non-BALUG lists).
Also, for better impact on the BALUG lists, I'd like to make the changes I mentioned earlier about list policy tweaks - most notably automagic subscription to "announce" for those on "talk" or "admin" lists (unless they send an e-mail to "opt out" for automagic addition to "announce").
The mention of those changes can go out on "talk" and "admin" lists, for "announce" it can just be a small footnote (probably tagged onto the "no Dec." meeting e-mailing) ... and that tweak to list policy needn't (and probably shouldn't) be sent out to non-BALUG lists.
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
How does this modified plan sound for Balug Talk & Announce lists:
1)Announce January meeting with ESR 3 times 2)Use the first announcement to also mention in a side note that there is no Dec meeting... 3)People that RSVP will get an extra final reminder
Schedule of announcements would look something like this:
Week of Dec 9th-15th - First announcement w/ no Dec meeting reminder Week of Jan 6th-12th - Second announcement Jan 14th - 3rd announcement Jan 15th - Reminder to RSVPs only
Michael:
I think we are on the same page. I assume that you will make the BALUG announcements and that I'll jump on the non-BALUG lists minus, Oakland Perl Mongers and BAD.
-Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu To: Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com Cc: balug-admin@lists.balug.org, balug-speaker-coordinators@balug.org Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: Announce "No Dec Meeting?"; etc.
Sounds like a good basic plan.
I was thinking, for the Dec. announce of ESR for Jan., and Dec. "no meeting" announce, perhaps I/we (at least to the BALUG announce list) do two messages - one covering each, in very quick (back-to-back) succession. Folks would be more likely to notice/catch each of the particular parts of note (ESR in Jan., and no Dec. meeting) with them being two separate e-mails. That would also about exhaust our quota of e-mail sends to "announce" for the month ... but that should be fine, as we shouldn't have anything else to send out until next year (say, Jan. 2nd).
For other (non-BALUG) lists/forums, though, should probably be one combined message in Dec (mostly promoting ESR in Jan; no Dec. BALUG meeting is mostly just a "footnote" and not too exiting for folks to read on non-BALUG lists).
Also, for better impact on the BALUG lists, I'd like to make the changes I mentioned earlier about list policy tweaks - most notably automagic subscription to "announce" for those on "talk" or "admin" lists (unless they send an e-mail to "opt out" for automagic addition to "announce").
The mention of those changes can go out on "talk" and "admin" lists, for "announce" it can just be a small footnote (probably tagged onto the "no Dec." meeting e-mailing) ... and that tweak to list policy needn't (and probably shouldn't) be sent out to non-BALUG lists.
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
How does this modified plan sound for Balug Talk & Announce lists:
1)Announce January meeting with ESR 3 times 2)Use the first announcement to also mention in a side note that there is no Dec meeting... 3)People that RSVP will get an extra final reminder
Schedule of announcements would look something like this:
Week of Dec 9th-15th - First announcement w/ no Dec meeting reminder Week of Jan 6th-12th - Second announcement Jan 14th - 3rd announcement Jan 15th - Reminder to RSVPs only