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(forw) Re: [BALUG-Talk] Cisco - Sr. Linux Engineer - Web 2.0 Start-up Business Unit
by Rick Moen 12 Oct '10

12 Oct '10

Looking on the bright side, recruiter misbehaviour returning to normal levels might be a leading indicator for recovery of the economy. (This one also did not bother to take our helpful suggestion about better places to post.) I've set the 'moderated' flag on Amela's balug-talk subscription. ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick(a)linuxmafia.com> ----- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:01:18 -0700 From: Rick Moen <rick(a)linuxmafia.com> To: balug-talk(a)lists.balug.org Subject: Re: [BALUG-Talk] Cisco - Sr. Linux Engineer - Web 2.0 Start-up Business Unit Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. Quoting Art Amela -X (aamela - Spherion at Cisco) (aamela(a)cisco.com): > Hi Balug, > > > > I hope this message is appropriate. I did my best to review some of the > guidelines but did not see anything forbidding job opportunities. If I > made a mistake please accept my apologies in advance. Let's see: To join this mailing list preparatory to posting, you first had to go to http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org . Where, on line two, in bold type, it says: Linux jobs postings are welcome and ALLOWED ONLY FROM THOSE RECENTLY HAVING GIVEN A TECHNICAL PRESENTATION AT A BALUG MEETING (or confirmed to do so at an upcoming BALUG meeting) (limit, one e-mail posting item per technical presentation). (Those not doing such a presentation may want to post elsewhere, such as SVLUG Jobs or BayLISA Jobs.) After seeing that, you joined and posted. I once heard Eric Raymond opine that technical people are a bit different from the general run of corporate employees, in that they tend to actually take personally being lied to, especially when it is done clumsily. _______________________________________________ BALUG-Talk mailing list BALUG-Talk(a)lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [BALUG-Admin] BALUG meeting on 9/21 (banquet room not available)
by Michael Paoli 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

FYI, we won't have the banquet room available to us for our 2010-09-21 meeting. Four Seas Restaurant has informed us that they can make available projector and screen for our use in the main dining area if we need/want such. I also CCed full details to: balug-speaker-coordinators(a)balug.org, balug-contact(a)balug.org

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Lists: stats, etc.
by Michael Paoli 02 May '10

02 May '10

list stats (email addresses subscribed on each list by date): YYYY-MM-DD announce talk admin 2010-05-02 730 289 34 2010-04-01 727 291 33 2010-03-15 727 293 33 2009-12-15 716 290 33 2009-09-08 700 288 32 2009-03-27 677 287 29 2009-01-10 662 290 30 2008-08-17 635 290 29 2008-03-03 571 247 28 2008-02-07 563 268 28 2008-01-02 337 260 28 2007-12-28 336 261 28 2007-10-21 304 251 27 2007-09-03 264 258 27 2007-07-24 287 256 27 2007-06-17 280 249 27 references: http://www.balug.org/#Lists http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2010-April/000688.ht… et. seq.

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Re: [BALUG-Admin] Feedback desired on (draft) survey form (for "Working in the Business" BALUG panel discussion)
by Andrew Fife 29 Apr '10

29 Apr '10

Here are my suggestions for improvement... please take all as IMHO. In general the questions themselves feel unnecessarily long. Question #3, the distinctions between IT worker and IT consultant and in -house vs. outsourced recruiter don't seem important. Maybe these four options could be rewritten and combined as "IT administrator" and "Recruiter/HR" Question #4, seems like most programmers I'm friends with prefer the title developer, but this is not a big deal. Question #5, does location really matter? If not, I'd delete this question. Question #6, can this be rewritten as "Would you pre fer to be a panelist or moderator?" with yes/no or panelist/moderator options? Question #7: this question feels like an interview question that could be intimidating to some. I'd maybe rewrite it as "What would you like to talk about on the panel." While this wouldn't cover those who want to moderate, their bio is likely to speak to their qualifications. Question #8, this feels very long. I'd shorten it to "Please provide a 1-2 paragraph bio that BALUG can use publicly." Question #9, references seem like overkill and I'd delete this question.

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BALUG webmastering comment :-)
by Michael Paoli 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

BALUG webmastering comment :-) I really like the newer improved BALUG webmastering control(s)/interface. Gone is the waiting around for a crontab driven rsync to production. Now it can essnetially all be driven by balugwm1 on webmaster.balug.org. E.g. as easy as: o edit some staging/preview page o copy to production o sync across production (at present that also automagically happens by default if one simply waits a while - but can also be immediately triggered with one simple command) E.g. (added comments on lines start with // at beginning of line): // this ID on webmaster.balug.org host (alias/CNAME): $ id uid=10745(balugwm1) gid=10745(balugwm1) groups=10745(balugwm1) // most noteworthy bits mostly reside somewhere under here: $ pwd -P /var/www $ vi www.new.balug.org/index.html // check on http://www.new.balug.org/ ... looks good, copy to production: $ cp -p www.new.balug.org/index.html www.balug.org/index.html // immediately sync across production and it's fully live!: $ www.balug.org_rsync index.html $ references: https://secure.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:webmaster

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Lists: stats, etc.
by Michael Paoli 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

list stats: YYYY-MM-DD announce talk admin 2010-04-01 727 291 33 2010-03-15 727 293 33 2009-12-15 716 290 33 2009-09-08 700 288 32 2009-03-27 677 287 29 2009-01-10 662 290 30 2008-08-17 635 290 29 2008-03-03 571 247 28 2008-02-07 563 268 28 2008-01-02 337 260 28 2007-12-28 336 261 28 2007-10-21 304 251 27 2007-09-03 264 258 27 2007-07-24 287 256 27 2007-06-17 280 249 27 references: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2010-March/000686.ht… et. seq.

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Administrivia: various bits (dinner "price"/"gift", panel, etc.) ... and if nobody objects :-}
by Michael Paoli 01 Apr '10

01 Apr '10

Administrivia: various bits (dinner "price"/"gift", panel, etc.) ... and if nobody objects :-} Dinner "price"/"gift" - hopefully someday we'll be non-profit for tax purposes & such (on our "to do" list). Towards that end, and in the meantime ... I'm tweaking language/description a bit on dinner "price" - essentially stating it as "donation" - e.g. 'you give us donation of $13 cash, we give you gift of' ... unless/until we're non-profit for tax purposes, I'm trying to specifically avoid word/term "donation" - to avoid potential confusion or misunderstanding. I may put some explanatory bit(s) on web site/page somewhere and/or in future announcements and such (I'm open to suggestions on exactly how/where to best do that and/or specific suggestions on wording). Giveaway items and raffle/drawing items. There's been a (slight?) bit of debate(/controversy) as to whether or not those not paying for dinner ought to be in such (e.g. "door prize"/"raffle") drawings or not. I think it's at least a fair bit a judgement call, but in general I'm inclined to mostly: for "door prize"/"raffle" drawing items - those are for folks that "pay" for dinner (rationale: help encourage folks to do so - and thus help with our patronage of the restaurant, also, part of that funding often goes towards or covers dinner for speakers - and it's often the speaker that's making those "raffle"/drawing items available). Of course there will be at least some exceptions (e.g. speaker brings "door prize" items, and wants to award them for correctly answering questions). As for free giveaway items (e.g. typically CDs, magazines, other random items - typically in quantities likely to meet or more than meet demand) - I'd say in general free and available to anyone who attends - "paid" for dinner or not ... but if demand exceeds or likely exceeds supply - then in such case, typically give at least first preference to "paid" folks. Might not all be 100% fair, but such is life. I'm certainly willing to hear and consider opinions to the contrary (and/or in agreement). BALUG is run by ... well, it's not particularly formally organized, ... like many/most more loosely organized groups/associations, it's mostly "run" by those that show up and/or do the work ... so ... opinions will be gladly considered ... but may be weighted by participation (past and/or present). So, ... anyone wants more say, ... show up and/or do more stuff for BALUG :-). "working in the business" panel discussion thingy - I sent basic information earlier (see also below references/excerpts) to balug-speaker-coordinators(a)balug.org In addition to that noted earlier: I'll likely go ahead and get some relevant bits on the main BALUG web page too - again, no specific locked-in date ... yet, ... but I'm mostly inclined to target it for the BALUG June or July (that may also be a bit more optimal for "new grads" - those are also the two meeting date options that can be selected on form/survey/application thingy - read on) meeting this year, and be able to make a go/no-go decision just before our April (or May for July) meeting this year. Hopefully if we get more information out sooner, we can line up ample panelists and potential/alternate panelists well ahead of time, so we can pull it off relatively smoothly. I also have put together a survey/application form to "apply" to be on the panel (or to be moderator of it) ... haven't quite finished that yet - a few more tweaks, and I'll have it out ... might run it by y'all first, before "releasing" it (probably don't want to change it once it's placed out there - using surveymonkey.com). BALUG history! Once upon a time, I mentioned some test/draft/proof-of-concept pages for BALUG I'd been working on, notably under: http://www.test.balug.org/mpaoli/ ... anyway, at the time, I mentioned them a wee bit (e.g.: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2008-February/000509… ) ... got (as I seem to recall), a bit of feedback, but not all that much (and none recently) ... anyway, I'm inclined to proceed at least a bit in getting some of this stuff into production, ... most notably (at least as first step), getting the "history"/past page: http://www.test.balug.org/mpaoli/past/ into production ... but not precisely in its present (test/mock-up) form, notably: have to fix up a bunch of URLs (e.g. due to some site shuffling and such), I wouldn't change the color scheme or logo ... yet (on the logo, I'd also want to get the fortune cookie worked into any revised/updated production main logo), I may also mostly introduce it most recent first, and with relatively complete bits first (and where necessary skipping stuff we can't get to at least just yet). Anyway, let me know what y'all think, ... or ... hearing no objections :-) ... in any case, I think making BALUG's history much more visible may rather significantly help BALUG in general, and give us quite a bit more visibility (and yes, as one may see, I've generally been tracking past meeting stuff fairly well, and rebuilding/reconstructing history as and where reasonably feasible (some bits are easier to piece back together again, than others ... hopefully eventually we'll have most all of it). We now return you to your regularly scheduled Internet. references/excerpts: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-announce-balug.org/2010-March/000149… > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:11:55 -0700 > From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu> > Subject: Re: "Working in the Business" panel discussion @ BALUG - > Jun or Jul ? > Cc: balug-speaker-coordinators(a)balug.org > > Thanks for the feedback/thoughts. > > I've set up alias: > balug-panel-2010(a)balug.org > for helping to facilitate communication on this. > Initially it's "seeded" with (is presently an alias to) > balug-speaker-coordinators(a)balug.org > > If(/when) anyone wants to be specifically added to (or removed from) > balug-panel-2010(a)balug.org > alias, just let me know and I'll take care of that. > Note that like balug-speaker-coordinators(a)balug.org, the > balug-panel-2010(a)balug.org alias will be publicly exposed - so it will > pick up at least some spam and such too. It may also get relatively > "chatty" as we work to organize the panel. > > Of course once we're done with the panel (at least for 2010) we can > get rid of that alias (it's intended to be "temporary"). I did > also earlier get rid of the alias: > balug-panel-2009-07-21(a)balug.org > which had been used earlier for similar purpose > (ended up not doing panel discussion for 2009-07-21 - had > insufficient lead time with the earlier attempt). > > As to scope - I'm thinking at least somewhat broader ... initially, > anyway. Depending what we can come up with in terms of panelists, > and what areas folks are most interested in seeing covered, I think we > can then shift the focus/emphasis as may be most appropriate. > > A series of such discussions/panels? I don't think we'll want to > do it *too* regularly ... but I'm gustimating if it goes rather to quite > well - perhaps do something relatively similar every 2 to 3 years or so? > ... and could always adjust/change focus/emphasis, and perhaps the > way it's presented/done, and balance/mix of panelists, etc., so each > time it would be "different enough" to continue to be quite interesting. > ... anyway, just my thoughts/guestimates on other future ones, ... > have to make it well through the first one first. :-) > > Anyway, I'll have the initial bits (but not locked in date yet) about > panel discussion in next BALUG announcement (which I plan to have out > today - before midnight PDT). ... I'll also do some administrivia/etc. > related email(s) (to the "admin" list) after I have the announcement out > (just to catch folks up on some relevant details/background in general, > etc.). > > Quoting jim <jim(a)well.com>: > > > good lesson learned. > >i suggest dreaming up some focii: > >* data center stuff > >* open source use > >* other > > > > we might be able to cook up a series, each > >with only a few panelists, but concentrated on > >a particular topic. > > > > > > > >On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 17:00 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > >>I'm tentatively thinking of trying again to do > >>"Working in the Business" panel discussion > >>@ BALUG for June or July > >>... really needs a fair bit if advance lead time to coordinate, etc. > >>I'm thinking 2+ month minimum, e.g. make a go / no-go decision on June > >>prior to the April BALUG meeting, and go / no-go decision for July prior > >>to the May BALUG meeting. > >> > >>I think key thing that didn't (quite) work last time, was too short > >>a lead time, too many folks (panelists) to coordinate, and not enough > >>alternates (alternate available panelists).

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Lists: stats, etc.
by Michael Paoli 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

list stats: YYYY-MM-DD announce talk admin 2010-03-15 727 293 33 2009-12-15 716 290 33 2009-09-08 700 288 32 2009-03-27 677 287 29 2009-01-10 662 290 30 2008-08-17 635 290 29 2008-03-03 571 247 28 2008-02-07 563 268 28 2008-01-02 337 260 28 2007-12-28 336 261 28 2007-10-21 304 251 27 2007-09-03 264 258 27 2007-07-24 287 256 27 2007-06-17 280 249 27 references: http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2009-December/000682… et. seq.

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Got (SF-LUG & BALUG) Wiki? [DO NOT REPLY-ALL unless you're subscribed to BOTH lists!]
by Michael Paoli 22 Feb '10

22 Feb '10

Got (SF-LUG & BALUG) Wiki? [DO NOT REPLY-ALL unless you're subscribed to BOTH lists!] So, the http://[www]sf-lug.com/wiki/ wiki stuff that was used by both SF-LUG and BALUG (and apparently some others too) ... Have a look here: https://secure.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:wiki (or here: http://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:wiki or here: http://wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:wiki ) (for https://secure.balug.org/ at least for now you'll want to accept BALUG.org's "snake oil" certificate ... want a trust path to it? See: http://www.balug.org/https.html ) Essentially, what was on/under http://[www]sf-lug.com/wiki/ is now available (at least somewhere - some locations changed) on the BALUG wiki site. Note that non-BALUG materials may just be there "temporarily" (i.e. they may move elsewhere some day(s)/week(s)/months(s)/year(s) in the future), but at least for the time being they can generally be used (and updated, etc.) on the BALUG wiki. Also, if you set up a new registration on the wiki, or logged into the current or former sf-lug wiki via http (rather than https), and haven't already changed your password via https and only used it over https, I'd recommend changing your password on the wiki via https.

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[DO NOT "REPLY ALL" unless you're on BOTH lists]
by Michael Paoli 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

[DO NOT "REPLY ALL" unless you're on BOTH lists] Bcc: SF-LUG and BALUG sysadmin folks The Xen Dom0 hosting sf-lug.com will be going down for maintenance (OS upgrades) this evening. sf-lug.org remains unaffected. Some not directly "production" (redundant or no direct immediate production impact) BALUG systems will also be down this evening (all those on IP 208.96.15.254). (The Xen domU hosting a BALUG domU will be going down).

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