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suggestion fot a speaker Seth Schoen of EFF
by Larry Platzek 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

Michael Paoli, Dick and I had thought about asking Seth Schoen of EFF to speak at a balug meeting again. Just thought would bring it out to the admin list. If we have other speakers or are trying for others that is good. I will try to make some contacts at LinuxWorld, no promises. Glad you have a speaker for the August meeting for balug! Thank You! Hope to see everyone at the balug meeting. Larry Platzek larryp(a)inow.com

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(forw) Re: [balug-talk] [JOB] Contract Linux Sys Admin, San Jose, CA
by 'Rick Moen' 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

----- Forwarded message from Beau Gould <beau(a)open-source-staffing.com> ----- From: Beau Gould <beau(a)open-source-staffing.com> To: 'Rick Moen' <rick(a)linuxmafia.com> Cc: balug-talk(a)lists.balug.org Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:49:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Subject: Re: [balug-talk] [JOB] Contract Linux Sys Admin, San Jose, CA Rick, That may be difficult since I am a paraplegic and rarely travel. I will post elsewhere from now on. Please pass on my deepest apologies to the BALUG subscribers. Beau -----Original Message----- From: Rick Moen [mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:59 PM To: beau(a)open-source-staffing.com Subject: (forw) Re: [balug-talk] [JOB] Contract Linux Sys Admin, San Jose, CA Forwarded to you manually because I notice you have your subscription set to "nomail." ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick(a)linuxmafia.com> ----- Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:22:29 -0700 To: balug-talk(a)lists.balug.org From: Rick Moen <rick(a)linuxmafia.com> Reply-To: balug-admin(a)lists.balug.org Subject: Re: [balug-talk] [JOB] Contract Linux Sys Admin, San Jose, CA [Reply-to has been set.] Quoting Beau Gould (beau(a)open-source-staffing.com): > Contract Linux Sys Admin, San Jose, CA Hi, Beau! I hope we'll be hearing from you about the required technical presentation, this week. -- the one you just committed to. You'll have noticed this right near the top of the page, when you joined this mailing list: _Linux jobs postings_ are welcome from companies intending to give a technical presentation at an upcoming BALUG meeting. If we see a job-offer posting from you, we expect to see a talk proposal [link] around the same time. (Companies not prepared to speak may want to post elsewhere, such as SVLUG Jobs [link] or BayLISA Jobs [link].) (http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org) We _are_ serious, so please send us an outline or other talk description of your (or your client's) technical presentation that is topic-appropriate for BALUG, so we can schedule it. _______________________________________________ balug-talk mailing list balug-talk(a)lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message -----

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Aug. 15th Bay Area Linux Users Group Speaker?
by Michael Paoli 03 Aug '06

03 Aug '06

Seems we've had a little mix-up for the Aug. 15th meeting. If you know of or come up with speaker/program or possiblity for Aug. 15th, let at least myself, Ann and Larry know. In the meantime I'll also see if I can come up with someone/something for us. references/excerpts: ----- Forwarded message from Michael Paoli ----- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:12:29 -0700 From: Michael Paoli Subject: Re: Bay Area Linux Users Group Speaker? To: Ann E. Worley Cc: Larry Platzek Yipes! ... Well, I'll see if I can scramble and arrange someone/something for the Aug. 15th BALUG meeting. I'll see if I can maybe get something fitting from some of my vendor contacts. If not that day, maybe I'll manage to at least fill some other open slot (like Sept., if that is still open). I'll update the web page a bit - so at least it's not promoting for Aug. a presentation/speaker that won't happen at that meeting. I'll see if I can get at least some other "feelers" out there too, in case that's able to snag us a speaker/presentation for Aug. 15th meeting that way. We could always add a keysigning ... but that does not a whole meeting take (but it can fill 15 to 30 minutes). Since an impromptu one happened at the last BALUG meeting (I didn't see any announcements for such, but some folks showed up interested in keysingings, and some keysignings happened) ... doing it a 2nd month in a row could be a bit on the redundant side ... though it might pull in some more folks from LinuxWorld ... but on the other hand, there will almost certainly be some keysigning at/around LinuxWorld itself ... and BALUG is a bit of a trek from there for a keysigning if there's one at or much closer to LinuxWorld. references/excerpts: Quoting Ann E. Worley: > mixed up the dates > Michael, I bet no one would complain if you recruit a speaker at > LinuxWorld as you previously offered to do. > > Patrick, I regret that we will not be learning how to take the sh out > of IT quite yet > Quoting Patrick McGovern: > > > Hi Larry, > > > > Thanks for the note. > > > > I regret, with the timing mixup, that I will not to be able to speak > > on the 15th. I am still very interested in participating at a future > > event. Perhaps October or November. (Sept will likely be tough with ----- End forwarded message -----

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(forw) Re: LinuxWorld VIP Pass - Care of Kerio Technologies
by Rick Moen 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Mr. or Ms. Peluso had mailed a query to "balug-announce-owner(a)lists.balug.org". He/she signs mail as follows: Chris Peluso Senior Channel Manager cpeluso(a)kerio.com (408) 496-3348 - Direct ........................ Kerio Technologies (408) 496-4500 - General (408) 496-6902 - Fax (Kerio offers MS-Exchange-like groupware.) ----- Forwarded message from rick ----- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:41:06 -0700 To: Chris Peluso <cpeluso(a)kerio.com> Subject: Re: LinuxWorld VIP Pass - Care of Kerio Technologies Quoting Chris Peluso (cpeluso(a)kerio.com): > I would be interested in sending an email to your list regarding VIP > Passes to LinuxWorld this month in San Francisco. There is no cost for > the pass. I would just like to get our company in front of some Linux > users who may be interested in going to LinuxWorld. > > Thank you for your consideration. Hi, Chris. You would be most welcome to send that announcement to balug-talk(a)lists.balug.org, the general-discussion mailing list. Since (I believe) you're not currently a member of that mailing list, you'll get a notice that your posting's been held for moderator attention: You can then disregard that, as the listadmins will definitely approve your post. The "balug-announce(a)lists.balug.org" is for announcements of upcoming BALUG meetings, only -- and the balug-talk list reaches more people, anyway. Thanks for thinking of BALUG. ----- End forwarded message -----

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Are directions to BALUG meeting location sufficiently current and accurate?
by Michael Paoli 22 Jul '06

22 Jul '06

Are directions to BALUG meeting location sufficiently current and accurate? Perhaps some folks that regularly, or at least semi-regularly, drive some or much/all of these routes could let us know if there's stuff that needs updating. Looks like it may not have been updated since 2005, and given all the construction work - most notably with freeway on/off ramps, but possibly also other local changes - I suspect it's probable at least some updates are needed. http://www.balug.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagenam…

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Fwd: LinuxWorld BoF: Network, Device, and Environment Monitoring, Wednesday, 2006-08-16, 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM
by Michael Paoli 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

preface notes: I stuck the URL back together (looks like it had gotten folded), and at least based upon last year, I don't think there's a particularly "hard stop" at, or at least shortly after 7:00 P.M., but that might be a bit different 30/60/120/??? minutes later. ----- Forwarded message from Peter Mui <pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com> ----- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:55:23 -0700 From: Peter Mui <pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com> Reply-To: Peter Mui <pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com> Subject: Announce LinuxWorld "Monitoring All Stars" BoF to BALUG? (and others) Hi Michael, here's a revised BoF announcement. ------------------------------------------------------- At LinuxWorld: BoF: Network, Device, and Environment Monitoring Wednesday, 08/16/2006, 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM Free with LinuxWorld exhibits pass Informal "meet and greet" reception at GroundWork's offices after the BoF Speakers: Ian Berry, Project Lead, Cacti Kees Cook, Project Lead, Sendpage Matt Massie, Project Lead, Ganglia Tobi Oetiker, Project Lead, RRDtool, MRTG, Smokeping Remo Rickli, Project Lead, NeDi It'll be a follow-on to a conference session earlier in the day (BP4); unfortunately people will need a full conference pass to attend that ($$$). Here's that URL: http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12SFO06A/conference/tracksessi… A roundtable on open source tools for network and server monitoring and management, we'll briefly discuss the the state of the IT management tools industry -- both commercial and Open Source. The project leads for ganglia, Cacti, rrdtool, MRTG, NeDi, and Smokeping will present briefly on their tools and answer questions. Finally, we'll describe an approach that integrates multiple open source tools to create a comprehensive Network Monitoring solution. ------------------------------------------------------- I haven't found out from LinuxWorld yet if there's a hard stop at 7PM; either way: everyone's invited back to GroundWork's offices at 139 Townsend St. (one block from AT&T Park) afterwards to mingle and continue the discussion. Thanks, and feel free to contact me anytime with questions. Cheers, -Peter Peter Mui, Open Source Community Advocate GROUNDWORK Open Source, Inc. 139 Townsend Street, Suite 100 San Francisco, CA 94107-1946 +1 415 992 4573 (direct) +1 415 947 0684 (fax) pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [balug-admin] At LinuxWorld: BoF: Network, Device, and Environment Monitoring BoF, Wednesday, 2006-08-16, 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM
by Michael Paoli 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately I didn't get to this e-mail before this month's BALUG meeting. In the meantime, I can pass it along to the BALUG "talk" list, and Cc: the "admin" list, and when we send out our next e-mailing to the "announce" list (probably about a week before the next BALUG meeting - that meeting being the day before the BoF session you mention), I/we can probably also include a brief metion (and relevant link(s)) to information about the BoF session. That will probably also reach more folks than verbal announcement alone at the meeting would have covered anyway. FYI, you can also post directly to the "talk" list yourself if you're subscribed to it. I didn't, at least easily, spot link(s) on the LinuxWorld site covering listing of specific BoFs for LinuxWorld - at least yet - but if those are available when we cover a later announcement, we could probably also include those links too. I also noticed that for this year's LinuxWorld in San Francisco, it looks like free Expo passes can be signed up for through 2006-08-13 - quite close to the start of LinuxWorld itself (not sure about the cut-off, but certainly after some date the registration probably becomes will-call pickup rather than being mailed out). http://www.balug.org/ Quoting Peter Mui <pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com>: > Hi Michael: > > I hope this gets to you in time for tonight's meeting. > > I saw your posting about upcoming BALUG meetings. We have an > upcoming event that BALUG members are invited to and might be > interested in: > > At LinuxWorld: > BoF: Network, Device, and Environment Monitoring BoF > Wednesday, 08/16/2006, 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM > > Speakers: > Ian Berry, Project Lead, Cacti > Kees Cook, Project Lead, Sendpage > Matt Massie, Project Lead, Ganglia > Tobi Oetiker, Project Lead, RRDtool, MRTG, Smokeping > Remo Rickli, Project Lead, NeDi > > We'll open with the evolution of open source tools for network and > server monitoring and management, and briefly discuss the the state > of the IT management tools industry -- both commercial and Open Source. > We will then describe individual components for Open Source IT > management: many project leads for tools such as ganglia, Cacti, > rrdtool, MRTG, NeDi (and others) will present briefly on their tools > and answer questions. > Finally, we'll describe an approach that integrates multiple open > source tools to create a comprehensive Network Monitoring solution. > > Can you please mention these at tonight's meeting? People should > sign up for (free) LinuxWorld exhibits passes so they can attend the > BoF. > > We also have a regular conference session earlier in the day, but > people will have to get a full conference pass to attend that ($$$). > > Thanks, and feel free to contact me anytime with questions. > > Cheers, -Peter > > Peter Mui, Open Source Community Advocate > GROUNDWORK Open Source, Inc. > 139 Townsend Street, Suite 100 > San Francisco, CA 94107-1946 > +1 415 992 4573 (direct) > +1 415 947 0684 (fax) > pmui(a)groundworkopensource.com

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Linux Kernel Engineer (System Management) Fulltime in San Jose - Direct Hire
by Blair Mandell 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Job Opportunity for Linux Kernel Engineers Availigent is the leading provider of affordable, transparent and automatic high availability for Linux-based enterprise applications, giving companies peace of mind during planned and unplanned downtimes. We are specifically looking for a Linux Kernel S/W Developer to design, develop and maintain Availigent's System Manager component of Duration, the company's high-availability Linux infrastructure software. You will be responsible for architecture, design, implementation, code review, documentation and testing. This is a full time position w/benefits in San Jose, CA. Send a resume to: Blair Availigent Email: bmandell(a)availigent.com ============================================================= System Management Software Developer (ENG-SM) Availigent is seeking a talented senior software engineer to be responsible for development and maintenance of the System Manager component of DurationR, the company's high-availability Linux infrastructure software. Primary Responsibilities: Design, develop and maintain Availigent's "System Manager" and related modules. Assignments include architecture, design, implementation, code review, documentation, test and working as a member of the engineering team. Requirements: BSCS/MSCS with a minimum of 5 years of industry experience in C/C++ and Java Servlets/JSP/J2SE writing commercial grade applications. A minimum of 3 years experience programming in a Linux environment is desired. Core Technical Requirements: . Proficiency in C/C++ GNU tools, CVS and shell scripting . Proficiency in Java, J2SE/EE, JSP and Servlets and general "web" programming . Experience in distributed, multi-process, and multi-threaded programming in Linux . Proven experience with Apache/Tomcat or other Servlet engine . Experience with Linux network programming, including sockets, TCP/IP, UDP and related networking protocols . Experience with SNMP, MIBs, CIMOM etc. is desirable . Prior experience with high-availability, fault tolerance or system management technologies is preferred . Proven track record in designing, developing and releasing quality commercial enterprise software on time and to specification Non-technical Requirements: . The ability to work well with other members of the development and QA teams . The ability to work independently . Excellent problem solving skills . Excellent communications skills in both verbal and written English are essential

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who wants to solicit speakers?
by Ann E. Worley 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Hey Admins, I am taking chemotherapy injections Monday nights for the next 44 weeks, so my meeting attendance is not going to be consistent for Tuesdays. We have a speaker for August, does anyone want to take over booking speakers starting in September? Thanks, ~Ann

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Fwd: Re: BALUG website [BALUG stuff to do (site, etc.)]
by Michael Paoli 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

... and propogate that error by copying it with the error a second time ... ----- Forwarded message from Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu> ----- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:41:13 -0700 From: Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: BALUG website [BALUG stuff to do (site, etc.)] To: mikron <mikron1234(a)gmail.com> FYI, I ran checkbot against http://www.balug.org/ (excluding http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/). Most of the stuff isn't too exciting (e.g. minor corrections should be made, such as: http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/installfest --> http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/installfest/ http://www.linuxmafia.com/cabal/ --> http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/ ). Some of the stuff, I'm not exactly where checkbot dug it up (it probably included searching areas that needn't have been searched - at least some of the URLs and such that checkbot found, I couldn't find on the http://www.balug.org/ site - at least with some simple quick Google searches). Anyway, may want to review it and tweak those things that actually ought to be tweaked (and ignore the what's "noise" and essentially false positives). 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[85]Valid XHTML 1.1! Quoting Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli(a)cal.berkeley.edu>: > Thanks for volunteering. > > I'm not aware of much/anything in the way of database stuff to do > presently, but regarding the site in general, you might start with some > of these items. > > Get yourself subscribed to the "admin" list <balug-admin(a)list.balug.org> > http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-admin-balug.org > It's probably a fairly good idea to read/skim a moderate bit of past > archives (e.g. about the last 1 to 3 years). > You can also grab those from the archives: > http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/ > if you grab the gzipped stuff, and gunzip those, they're in mbox format, > so those could be browsed/skimmed with most mail client software, if > desired ... can probably also just concatenate them all into one long > mbox format file (something like that may be more convenient than trying > to browse lots of them via the web interface). > > Anyway, reviewing a fair bit of the "admin" archives will give you a > fairish overview of various issues which have been discussed and such. > > Probably good to also likewise at least skim the Subject: lines for the > last year or so of of the "announce" and "talk" lists. > > On the website itself, you probably want to look it over and get > familiar with the various portions of it. Some are probably in the dead > to semi-dead range - e.g. haven't changed in a very very long time, and > may not have been actively used for similarly long time. Opinions might > differ on this, but perhaps some of those could be turned into static > archives, rather than exist as "dynamic" stuff that nobody updates or > actively uses (other than looking at older/historic stuff). > > It's probably a *good* idea to preserve backwards compatibility, in > terms of content. E.g. folks do find, reference, search out, link to, > etc., various stuff on our web pages, so, preserving most of that > functionality - at least in terms of preserving references, can be quite > useful. Unfortunately some older stuff has been lost and/or > significantly munged (e.g. I've been active with BALUG since sometime in > 2003, and since then the mailing lists have gone through 3 very > different configurations, and in at least some cases access to the older > archived stuff has been effectively lost (I think the data still exists, > but not in a format we've been able to make use of)). > > The most active areas (at least in my opinion and as far as I can tell) > are the lists, and a few relatively "high level" web pages on the site. > Most notably (interpreting / tersely paraphrasing) there are the lists: > "announce" - low volume, moderated, "highly" important/relevant stuff to > BALUG (e.g. information about upcoming meetings/speakers, etc.) > "talk" - open unmoderated (must be subscribed to it) discussion (should > be reasonably topical to BALUG, but we haven't carved out a highly > specific policy for that list.) Traffic volume varies from quite > quiet, to very active. > "admin" - administrivia - basically for discussing (it's publicly > archived) BALUG administrivia stuff (the "business" of running > BALUG). Stuff that shouldn't be publicly accessible should go in > private e-mails (e.g. often communications to/from prospective > speakers arranging speaking engagements, passwords (unless very > strongly encrypted), etc.) > > I think we've got a fairly reasonable handle on the lists and their > management presently, so that's probably mostly okay. What could > probably use more attention is the website itself. > > It's hosted by Dreamhost, so, as long as that's the case, and the > interfaces are as they are, we can't go in a freely muck about with and > change things in any and/or all ways we might want to. Unfortunately, I > don't think we have, or know that we have a way to set up a "beta" or > "test" site, such that it would effectively be a copy, yet would have > the same interfaces when it comes to changing stuff - so that we could > safely test out changes without mucking up the main site. Unfortunately > some of the interfaces definitely leave things to be desired - not only > do we not have the lower level control of the site, but it is possible > (e.g. via a HTML error) to introduce error(s) into the site that cannot > be corrected via the same interfaces that introduced the error(s) (at > least from what I've been told and seen thus far anyway). So, ... one > does need to be rather to quite careful with at least some types of > changes on the web pages - at least given our current interfaces to > manage them. > > If you poke around some of the Dreamhost support and related web pages, > that'll also give you a rough idea of what we can and can't do, and how, > and also the types of problems/issues others have run into under our > present hosting arrangement. > e.g.: http://www.dreamhost.com/support.html and related pages. > > There's been occasional talk of switching to a rather/quite different > hosting arrangement. For that to be feasible, however, various > conditions would need to be met, e.g.: > o it would need to be quite affordable > o it would need to be rather/quite reliable (e.g. probably in a colo) > o it would need to be "sufficiently easy" to maintain - a web hosting > situation (such as dreamhost) may not give us the flexibility and direct > access we might like, but it saves someone from having to also do all > the OS and hardware maintenance, etc. Covering the OS and hardware > isn't particularly trivial ... unless that's just someone's N+1th > similar system (real or virtual) in an existing large managed set of N > systems - otherwise it's a fair bit of time and work for some person(s) > to cover, and do so reliably and regularly. > > > Yes, ... Post Nuke, ... get yourself set up with a login on the web site > using the New User? Sign Up! link on the main page, continue to get > yourself familiar with the site, and one of us with admin access to > the site can then grant that access to you presuming we're then settled > upon that. > > Again, thanks for your interest in volunteering to assist with this. > > Quoting mikron <mikron1234(a)gmail.com>: > > > Hi Michael, > > > > It was interesting to hear about the state of the BALUG website last > Tues, > > and I look forward to contributing to a fix up. > > > > I took a quick peak at the site, and discovered what content management > > system it runs on. It uses Post Nuke, and I discovered that by looking > at > > the HTML source meta tags. The post nuke site is here: > > http://postnuke.com, > > and a demo site is accessible here: > > > http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=130&Item… > > > > Presumably, someone has an admin login so we can manipulate our content. > > > > Not sure what the next step is, but at least we know what we are dealing > > with. > > > > Mike > ----- End forwarded message -----

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