Hi Pete:
Copying in balug-admin so that you're request will be documented publicly. To clarify, is the objection to any BALUG event, or just Linux centric meetings? This particular meeting is about Open Source programs at Google and not Linux specifically. As the SFOBUG list admin, we are happy to respect whatever you prefer, just let us know.
Thanks,
Andrew
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-----Original Message----- From: Peter Hessler [mailto:phessler@theapt.org] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: Andrew Fife Subject: Re: Chris Dibona @ BALUG (8/19)
please do not post linux posts to an openbsd group. thanks.
On 2008 Aug 11 (Mon) at 10:50:15 -0700 (-0700), Andrew Fife wrote: :Hi Folks: : :Chris Dibona will be speaking at BALUG next Tuesday (8/19). Chris DiBona :is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, :where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, :supports the open source community through programs such as the Google :Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. (full bio below) : :So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: : : RSVP@balug.org : :**Why RSVP??** : :Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the :Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat :upstairs in the private banquet room. : :Meeting Details... : : 6:30pm : August 19th, 2008 (Next Tuesday) : : Four Seas Restaurant : 731 Grant Ave. : San Francisco, CA 94108 : Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny : :Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 : :Chris Dibona's full bio: : :Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. :based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes :developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs :such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google :Code. : :Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software :and related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in :Tech and Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan :School of Management and has a masters in software engineering from :Carnegie Mellon University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board :of imeem, a San Francisco, Ca. based social networking firm. : :Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the website :Slashdot.org . Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay :compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several :publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a :number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers" : :His personal blog can be found at :http://dibona.com and he can be reached via email via chris@dibona.com : :-- :Andrew Fife :Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway :www.untangle.com/download : :650.425.3327 desk :415.806.6028 cell :
All BALUG events, and Linux centric events in general.
On 2008 Aug 11 (Mon) at 11:32:23 -0700 (-0700), Andrew Fife wrote: :Hi Pete: : :Copying in balug-admin so that you're request will be documented publicly. :To clarify, is the objection to any BALUG event, or just Linux centric :meetings? This particular meeting is about Open Source programs at Google :and not Linux specifically. As the SFOBUG list admin, we are happy to :respect whatever you prefer, just let us know. : :Thanks, : :Andrew : :-- :Andrew Fife :Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway :www.untangle.com/download : :650.425.3327 desk :415.806.6028 cell : :-----Original Message----- :From: Peter Hessler [mailto:phessler@theapt.org] :Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:25 AM :To: Andrew Fife :Subject: Re: Chris Dibona @ BALUG (8/19) : :please do not post linux posts to an openbsd group. thanks. : :On 2008 Aug 11 (Mon) at 10:50:15 -0700 (-0700), Andrew Fife wrote: ::Hi Folks: :: ::Chris Dibona will be speaking at BALUG next Tuesday (8/19). Chris DiBona ::is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, ::where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, ::supports the open source community through programs such as the Google ::Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. (full bio below) :: ::So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: :: :: RSVP@balug.org :: ::**Why RSVP??** :: ::Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the ::Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat ::upstairs in the private banquet room. :: ::Meeting Details... :: :: 6:30pm :: August 19th, 2008 (Next Tuesday) :: :: Four Seas Restaurant :: 731 Grant Ave. :: San Francisco, CA 94108 :: Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny :: ::Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 :: ::Chris Dibona's full bio: :: ::Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. ::based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes ::developer outreach, supports the open source community through :programs ::such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google ::Code. :: ::Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software ::and related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in ::Tech and Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan ::School of Management and has a masters in software engineering from ::Carnegie Mellon University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board ::of imeem, a San Francisco, Ca. based social networking firm. :: ::Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the :website ::Slashdot.org . Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay ::compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several ::publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a ::number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers" :: ::His personal blog can be found at ::http://dibona.com and he can be reached via email via chris@dibona.com :: ::-- ::Andrew Fife ::Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway ::www.untangle.com/download :: ::650.425.3327 desk ::415.806.6028 cell :: : :-- :Goto, n.: : A programming tool that exists to allow structured programmers :to complain about unstructured programmers. : -- Ray Simard
[Snipping Peter from distribution, again.]
Quoting 'Peter Hessler' (phessler@theapt.org):
All BALUG events, and Linux centric events in general.
Yep, just as I thought.
We cherish our BSD cousins, and admire their many fine qualities, but it's well to remember that -- in the main -- they're pretty lastingly cranky about Linux. And the OpenBSD sub-clan are (in general) the crankiest of the cranky.
Popcorn-worthy 2001 public fight between Daniel J. Bernstein on the one hand, and OpenBSD's Theo de Raadt and entourage on the other: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/humour/dan-versus-theo Quality entertainment.
(In mid-fight, DJB posted a link to his page on qmail's then-current non-licensing that in passing calls me names, which indirectly caused about a dozen core OpenBSD CVS-committers to read my qmail/djbdns licence critique and send me fan-mail: "Hi, we're idiots, too." A nice bonus.)
[Snipping Peter Hessler:]
Quoting Andrew Fife (afife@untangle.com):
Copying in balug-admin so that you're request will be documented publicly. To clarify, is the objection to any BALUG event, or just Linux centric meetings?
My speculation: It's the former. BSD groups tend to be touchy about the L-word. (They have reasons. Long story.)
Peter might not have even read the announcement, and reacted based on just knowing what the "L" in BALUG stands for.