And ... in case anyone was wondering ... most of the bits regarding changing the canonical from temp.balug.org to lists.balug.org for lists, is shown further below. There were also other various details, including mailman configuration ... notably defaults and such ... let's see ..., that'd be: $ hostname; pwd -P; fgrep -e lists.balug.org -e temp.balug.org \
mm_cfg.py | grep -v '^#'
balug-sf-lug-v2.balug.org /etc/mailman DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.balug.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.balug.org' add_virtualhost('temp.balug.org', 'temp.balug.org') POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'lists.balug.org', 'temp.balug.org' ] $ //and following that was: # (cd / && umask 022 systemctl restart mailman.service) //... plus "of course" the stuff shown further below.
There was also some fair bits of miscellaneous web page tweaks, notably changing from temp.balug.org to lists.balug.org, see also: https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:mail_and_lists for pretty good overview of what was done in that regard.
Also in testing the transition, had temporarily created lists: balug-scratch02 balug-scratch03 One under temp.balug.org, another under lists.balug.org (letting it default to that recently reconfigured as default). And did some test moving of 'em between the two (sub-)domains. Then moved the BALUG-Test list and tested and well reviewed results on that. The proceeded to the remainder of the BALUG lists and some basic checks on those, and reconfiguration of Apache for temp-->lists redirects. And then onto the various related web page updates (including also some bits on the information web pages for most of the lists themselves). That was basically it ... not too hard to do. The "hardest" part - which really wasn't all that hard - was tracking down the particular command and syntax to move(/reconfigure) the lists among the (sub-)domains, and also prior to that, making the mailman configuration updates to change the default to lists.balug.org (and testing of that).
And, as bonus, did also see in the testing that SPF - at least for IPv6, is working like a champ, and mail is (at least also) being sent via IPv6 perfectly fine. Do still need to peek at some headers to check that it's likewise working perfectly fine for IPv4. Anyway ... presuming that all looks good, and a few more days pass with no SPF issues seen, will drop the soft-fail (~all) from SPF.
Do also have some minor SSL/TLS cert configurations to check and follow-through on ... most notably that each applicable domain is using the currently most relevant cert - they're all at least using a working CA signed one - covered that earlier ... but need to suitably align them so that as I replace 'em in future, and in (farther) future, drop temp.balug.org, they'll all be using expected certs and, excepting for the drop of temp.balug.org when it's dropped, will all continue to work appropriately.
$ id uid=38(list) gid=38(list) groups=38(list) $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url balug-test -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list balug-test (locked) Saving list Finalizing $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url balug-admin -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list balug-admin (locked) Saving list Finalizing $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url balug-talk -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list balug-talk (locked) Saving list Finalizing $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url balug-announce -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list balug-announce (locked) Saving list Finalizing $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url mailman -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list mailman (locked) Saving list Finalizing $
# pwd -P && rcsdiff -r1.5 -r1.7 -U 0 rewrites_temp.balug.org.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/rewrites =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/rewrites_temp.balug.org.conf,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -U 0 -r1.5 -r1.7 --- rewrites_temp.balug.org.conf 2017/08/06 09:11:33 1.5 +++ rewrites_temp.balug.org.conf 2017/09/21 10:15:56 1.7 @@ -5 +5 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*(?:cgi-bin(?:/+(?:mailman/*)?)?)?$" https://%0/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [L,R=temp] + RewriteRule "^/*(?:cgi-bin(?:/+(?:mailman/*)?)?)?$" https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [L,R=permanent] @@ -7 +7 @@ - #old to new: + #old to new: @@ -9 +9 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*listinfo.cgi/*$" https://%0/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [L,R=permanent] + RewriteRule "^/*listinfo.cgi/*$" https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [L,R=permanent] @@ -12 +12 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*listinfo.cgi/+(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://%0/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/$1" [L,R=permanent] + RewriteRule "^/*listinfo.cgi/+(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/$1" [L,R=permanent] @@ -15 +15 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*pipermail/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org/(.*)$" "https://%0/pipermail/$1/$2" [L,R=permanent] + RewriteRule "^/*pipermail/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org/(.*)$" "https://lists.balug.org/pipermail/$1/$2" [L,R=permanent] @@ -18 +18 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*admin.cgi/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://%0/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/$1" [L,R=permanent] + RewriteRule "^/*admin.cgi/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/$1" [L,R=permanent] @@ -21 +21,5 @@ - RewriteRule "^/*roster.cgi/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://%0/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/$1" [L,R=permanent] + RewriteRule "^/*roster.cgi/(balug-(?:announce|talk|admin))-balug.org$" "https://lists.balug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/$1" [L,R=permanent] + + # catch-all for anything remaining: + RewriteCond %{SERVER_NAME} "^.+$" + RewriteRule "^(.*)$" "https://lists.balug.org$1" [L,R=permanent] # $
From: "Michael Paoli" Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu To: BALUG-Talk balug-talk@lists.balug.org Subject: BALUG lists - lists.balug.org is canonical, temp.balug.org also usable to about 2017-11-30 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 22:41:32 -0700
BALUG lists: lists.balug.org is canonical, temp.balug.org also usable to about 2017-11-30.
So ... temp.balug.org was only ever intended to be temporary - for transitional purposes.
So, once again, lists.balug.org functions as it did before (and even better) - it's the domain for the list URLs, and list email addresses.
To ease transition back to lists.balug.org, temp.balug.org also remains usable and will remain usable until about 2017-11-30.
Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu):
$ id uid=38(list) gid=38(list) groups=38(list) $ (umask 027 && withlist -l -r fix_url balug-test -u lists.balug.org) Importing fix_url... Running fix_url.fix_url()... Loading list balug-test (locked) Saving list Finalizing $
For those playing along at home:
linuxmafia:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./fix_url.py Reset a list's web_page_url attribute to the default setting.
This script is intended to be run as a bin/withlist script, i.e.
% bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname [options]
Options: -u urlhost --urlhost=urlhost Look up urlhost in the virtual host table and set the web_page_url and host_name attributes of the list to the values found. This essentially moves the list from one virtual domain to another.
Without this option, the default web_page_url and host_name values are used.
-v / --verbose Print what the script is doing.
If run standalone, it prints this help text and exits. linuxmafia:/var/lib/mailman/bin#
'withlist' ($MAILMAN_HOME/bin/withlist) is a 'General framework for interacting with a mailing list object.' It uses Python's interpreter to modify Mailman binary objects, either interactively or (as Michael did here) programmatically.
'-l' = lock the mailing list before futzing with it. (Good idea.)
'-r' = run the Python script named next on this command line, in this case fix_url.py. (It includes an instruction to unlock the mailing list at the end.)
My instance of withlist doesn't include a '-u' option. With it, you just specify the mailing list as ending parameter.
https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/withlist.html (Examples are interactive Python, not scripted.)