And you're all announcing ... what? ;-)
Could we please try and keep the "talk" traffic on the "talk" list balug-talk-balug.org@lists.balug.org lest we annoy and lose subscribers from the "announce" list - which should, at least in theory, be relatively low-volume, and mostly relatively important BALUG related announcements.
Thanks.
Also, suggestion for the BALUG list wranglers: Can we get the "announce" list moderated? Not that it gets horribly overused/abused when the "announce" list probably wound't be the optimal choice for a message to get out, but sometime stuff goes out on "announce" that can be rather annoying (e.g. overzealous recruiters/agencies sending out job announcements for positions that aren't related to LINUX and aren't in the Bay Area). Maybe just get those on the "admin" list, or some suitable pool of folks as moderators (so that we have "enough" moderators, so that things that should get passed along don't sit for *too* long). Anyway, maybe we can also talk more about this at today's BALUG meeting.
Also, the "admin" list - I think I had suggested it before, but can we go ahead and open up the archives to the public (without requiring being on the subscriber list). Since folks could always access it with an e-mail address, I don't see a lot of "value add" by making one have to subscribe to read the archives. I think it would also be useful for the archives to be readable so search engines (e.g. Google) could search and index it, and folks could peruse and/or refer to it. I think I'd always made the point that stuff there isn't all that horribly hidden from the public, and hence stuff there should be readable by the public (if they're so inclined to read administrivia details and such for BALUG that may often not be all that exciting/interesting). Anyway, just my thoughts on that (among some others). I still haven't heard any objections to this suggestion :-).
Quoting Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com:
Quoting Michael T. Halligan (michael@halligan.org):
Does it always have to be on Tuesdays, and at the Four Seasons?
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Balug-announce-balug.org mailing list Balug-announce-balug.org@lists.balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-announce-balug.org
Quoting Michael Paoli (mp@rawbw.com):
And you're all announcing ... what? ;-)
Could we please try and keep the "talk" traffic on the "talk" list balug-talk-balug.org@lists.balug.org lest we annoy and lose subscribers from the "announce" list - which should, at least in theory, be relatively low-volume, and mostly relatively important BALUG related announcements.
Oops, sorry!
I usually pay a lot closer attention to which mailing list I'm responding on, but I was really tired last night. I'll not let that happen again.
Also, suggestion for the BALUG list wranglers: Can we get the "announce" list moderated?
Er, I have a vague recollection of having gotten the listadmin password, but cannot find it in my 3DES password record. If I correctly remember that, could someone lob me the password encrypted with my public gpg password (available on keyservers or from my Web page)?
I'd be glad to implement your two suggestions.
Quoting myself, answering Michael Paoli (mp@rawbw.com):
Er, I have a vague recollection of having gotten the listadmin password, but cannot find it in my 3DES password record. If I correctly remember that, could someone lob me the password encrypted with my public gpg password (available on keyservers or from my Web page)?
I'd be glad to implement your two suggestions.
Thanks to some off-list help, I've now gotten the listadmin password and implemented those two suggestions:
o balug-announce-balug.org is now moderated. o balug-admin-balug.org is now publicly archived.
The "moderated" status required (1) Setting a per-list flag so that all _new_ subscribers will default to having the "moderated" flag on their accounts. Persons who have that flag and post to the mailing list will have their postings autoheld for listadmin approval or rejection. (2) I then set the "moderated" flag for all _existing_ subscribers, too. (3) Just now, I'm going through the subscriber roster (twenty or so screens of them), trying to identify and un-flag the exceptions: These will be the small number of posting addresses whose postings should _not_ be held for scrutiny, because they're the people we expect to post announcements.
I have:
aftyde balug.org david sifry.com larryp inow.com michael offroadgeek.com mp rawbw.com sifry aptltd.com
Addresses above minimally munged for anti-spam purposes, even though I don't believe in that nonsense -- because other people often do.
Apologies if I missed anyone: I had, in general, only e-mail addresses to recognise people by, and not names.
Thanks for your work on this. Looks great. :-)
I'd guestimate about 3 to half a dozen, give or take a bit, is probably a good number of moderators to pick. We can always tweak who is/isn't in the moderator set later if need be. I was thinking it might correlate slightly more closely to the "admin" list - but I just peeked and that list has 26 subscribers, so that would probably be too large a set if it was used in its entirity.
Quoting Rick Moen rick@linuxmafia.com:
Quoting myself, answering Michael Paoli (mp@rawbw.com):
Er, I have a vague recollection of having gotten the listadmin password, but cannot find it in my 3DES password record. If I correctly remember that, could someone lob me the password encrypted with my public gpg password (available on keyservers or from my Web page)?
I'd be glad to implement your two suggestions.
Thanks to some off-list help, I've now gotten the listadmin password and implemented those two suggestions:
o balug-announce-balug.org is now moderated. o balug-admin-balug.org is now publicly archived.
The "moderated" status required (1) Setting a per-list flag so that all _new_ subscribers will default to having the "moderated" flag on their accounts. Persons who have that flag and post to the mailing list will have their postings autoheld for listadmin approval or rejection. (2) I then set the "moderated" flag for all _existing_ subscribers, too. (3) Just now, I'm going through the subscriber roster (twenty or so screens of them), trying to identify and un-flag the exceptions: These will be the small number of posting addresses whose postings should _not_ be held for scrutiny, because they're the people we expect to post announcements.
I have:
aftyde balug.org david sifry.com larryp inow.com michael offroadgeek.com mp rawbw.com sifry aptltd.com
Addresses above minimally munged for anti-spam purposes, even though I don't believe in that nonsense -- because other people often do.
Apologies if I missed anyone: I had, in general, only e-mail addresses to recognise people by, and not names.