And some information/clarification on new vs. beta (somewhat different purposes). Also, since that earlier e-mail (later on 2007-09-01) some infrastructure has been put in place to automagically propagate at least some web content from http://www.new.balug.org/ to http://www.balug.org/ Also, at least some initial bits of the beta.balug.org. infrastructure have been put into place (DNS, a very minimal bit of web stuff - doesn't yet have it's own DocumentRoot separate from new.balug.org, but that will likely happen in the near future). references/excerpts: ----- Forwarded message from Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu> ----- Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:57:48 -0700 From: Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu> Subject: new.balug.org vs.(?) beta.balug.org (Re: beta.balug.org. (?) and other useful ideas?) To: balug-webmaster@balug.org, balug-sysadmins@balug.org Cc: balug-contact@balug.org This is primarily for our webmaster(s), but also for our BALUG systems administrators and (at least key) contacts, to be sure we're all at least reasonably "on the same page". A) new.balug.org. - please treat it (at least almost) like production - certainly at least in terms of web page content and the like (at least for stuff on/under http://www.new.balug.org/ on (default of) port 80. I will likely quite soon set up mechanism(s) to automagically replicate at least specific web content (page(s)) from http://www.new.balug.org/ (certainly at least including the main page there) to the main BALUG page (http://www.balug.org/) (for lazy (or efficient) typists, the www. can be ommitted in those URLs, and that will likely always be the case). This will also make life a bit easier for our webmasters :-) B) new.balug.org isn't the (proposed) beta.balug.org, nor will it be (though they may share the same IP address). new.balug.org. has mostly been and will become staging for production www.balug.org. Longer term, new.balug.org would likely replace www.balug.org (taking www.balug.org's name). Even longer term (at least as thus far proposed - exactly in what order things change might be subject to change) beta.balug.org would eventually merge its functionality into www.balug.org (and as beta.balug.org went or faded away, it would redirect what's migrated to the location of that material on www.balug.org.) C) beta.balug.org - at least thus far hearing mostly positive feedback on the idea, I'll probably soon start to proceed more in that direction (no "heavy" investments until I'm sure we have something between consensus and at least a quite overwhelming supermajority). ----- End forwarded message -----