I don't intend to post this to balug-talk but wanted to put it out there in case anyone else on balug-admin feels differently. I do wonder if this is spam because it was sent to rsvp@balug.org, which seems like a weird place for a human to send this kind of announcement. Also, its from a yahoo.com address rather than a sun.com address, which could also be fishy.
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I think I'd agree and generally be inclined to ignore it.
It may be legit., but it's definitely on the spammy side.
Then again, could respond :->, ...
Thank you for RSVPing for the upcoming BALUG meeting. We look forward to seeing you there!
:-)
... perhaps "their" "marketing" <cough, cough> algorithm is: at main web site, for first whitespace delimited string containing a single @ where domain resolves, send email to that address ... for name/title of organization, use the TITLE from the HEAD section of that HTML page. That algorithm would explain why that email address was used, and other contact email addresses weren't used, and why they refer to us precisely as Bay Area Linux Users Group (BALUG).
A trace of research on the domain seems to suggest it may have been sent by an "email marketing firm". The From: address seems odd/fishy for a more legit. operation. Complete headers might be "interesting", but the From:, To:, Subject:, body, and apparent algorithm speaks fairly well for itself ... it is what it is. Other evidence also puts it towards the spammy side (e.g. the request to send/forward to lots of folks - "Just send" ... "to all of your members and urge them" ...). If it was actually sent from Yahoo!, that would seem rather odd too ... but who knows (or cares). The web site referred to in the email doesn't appear to be of quality construction - e.g. the "contact us" link at the top goes to a broken page ... all seems to be by the same "email marketing firm".
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
I don't intend to post this to balug-talk but wanted to put it out there in case anyone else on balug-admin feels differently. I do wonder if this is spam because it was sent to rsvp@balug.org, which seems like a weird place for a human to send this kind of announcement. Also, its from a yahoo.com address rather than a sun.com address, which could also be fishy.
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Laura Lindstrom" laura_lindstrom@yahoo.com To: rsvp@balug.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:29:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: No Cost to Attend - Register Today for CommunityOne 2008!
Attention Bay Area Linux Users Group (BALUG) : Reward Your Members With a Night Out at Thirsty Bear Brewing Company in San Francisco!
The association or user group with the most members who register for and attend CommunityOne on May 5 will win a $500 gift certificate for food and beverage at Thirsty Bear. Just send your groupâs exclusive registration link (below), to all of your members and urge them to use it when registering for CommunityOne. Registered members MUST attend in order to count towards your groupâs total number. The winning group will be notified at the end of CommunityOne after all registrations and attendance has been tallied.
Feel free to use the following email copy to communicate with your members about the Conference and the contest.
Please direct any questions to: Laura Lindstrom, laura_lindstrom@yahoo.com
Good luck!
CommunityOne
A free and open developer conference
May 5, 2008 | The Moscone Center | San Francisco, CA
While the admission is FREE, space is limited! Register today with your groupâs exclusive priority link:
https://www28.cplan.com/pgr/gr_form_builder.reg_login?icode=10178/1/96/en&am...
Advance your skills in 70+ sessions led by experts and contributors
from more than 30 projects spanning the open source stack and powering the Internet:
⢠Scripting and RIAs: PHP, AJAX, Python, Ruby, JavaScript, JavaFX,
and jMaki
⢠Tools: NetBeans, Eclipse, Subversion, and Others
⢠Web 2.0 Applications: Social Networks, Mashups, and
Web Services
⢠Chip Design: OpenSPARC
⢠Web-Scale Computing: HPC, SaaS, Utility/Cloud, OpenSSO,
and Project Darkstar
⢠Operating Systems: OpenSolaris and Linux Distributions
⢠Web and Application Servers: GlassFish, Apache, and JBoss
⢠Databases: MySQL, PostgreSQL, and Java DB
⢠And more: Music, Robotics, ODF, OpenDS, OpenJDK,
OpenOffice.org, Mobile and Embedded, and Strategy
PLAN TO STICK AROUND
Youâll also have complimentary access to the 2008 JavaOneSM conference general sessions and Pavilion on Tuesday, May 6.
Register Today â Itâs FREE!
developers.sun.com/events/communityone
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this is Sun-sponsored, Open-Solaris oriented, yes? if so, seems not Linux-oriented and therefore not appropriate for LUG announcements. the Open-Solaris guy at LugRadio admitted that O-S is going head to head against Linux for backroom server space ("the desktop is too much Ubuntu's for us to try to compete there").
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 07:25 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote:
I think I'd agree and generally be inclined to ignore it.
It may be legit., but it's definitely on the spammy side.
Then again, could respond :->, ...
Thank you for RSVPing for the upcoming BALUG meeting. We look forward to seeing you there!
:-)
... perhaps "their" "marketing" <cough, cough> algorithm is: at main web site, for first whitespace delimited string containing a single @ where domain resolves, send email to that address ... for name/title of organization, use the TITLE from the HEAD section of that HTML page. That algorithm would explain why that email address was used, and other contact email addresses weren't used, and why they refer to us precisely as Bay Area Linux Users Group (BALUG).
A trace of research on the domain seems to suggest it may have been sent by an "email marketing firm". The From: address seems odd/fishy for a more legit. operation. Complete headers might be "interesting", but the From:, To:, Subject:, body, and apparent algorithm speaks fairly well for itself ... it is what it is. Other evidence also puts it towards the spammy side (e.g. the request to send/forward to lots of folks - "Just send" ... "to all of your members and urge them" ...). If it was actually sent from Yahoo!, that would seem rather odd too ... but who knows (or cares). The web site referred to in the email doesn't appear to be of quality construction - e.g. the "contact us" link at the top goes to a broken page ... all seems to be by the same "email marketing firm".
Quoting Andrew Fife afife@untangle.com:
I don't intend to post this to balug-talk but wanted to put it out there in case anyone else on balug-admin feels differently. I do wonder if this is spam because it was sent to rsvp@balug.org, which seems like a weird place for a human to send this kind of announcement. Also, its from a yahoo.com address rather than a sun.com address, which could also be fishy.
----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Laura Lindstrom" laura_lindstrom@yahoo.com To: rsvp@balug.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:29:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: No Cost to Attend - Register Today for CommunityOne 2008!
Attention Bay Area Linux Users Group (BALUG) : Reward Your Members With a Night Out at Thirsty Bear Brewing Company in San Francisco!
The association or user group with the most members who register for and attend CommunityOne on May 5 will win a $500 gift certificate for food and beverage at Thirsty Bear. Just send your group’s exclusive registration link (below), to all of your members and urge them to use it when registering for CommunityOne. Registered members MUST attend in order to count towards your group’s total number. The winning group will be notified at the end of CommunityOne after all registrations and attendance has been tallied.
Feel free to use the following email copy to communicate with your members about the Conference and the contest.
Please direct any questions to: Laura Lindstrom, laura_lindstrom@yahoo.com
Good luck!
CommunityOne
A free and open developer conference
May 5, 2008 | The Moscone Center | San Francisco, CA
While the admission is FREE, space is limited! Register today with your group’s exclusive priority link:
https://www28.cplan.com/pgr/gr_form_builder.reg_login?icode=10178/1/96/en&am...
Advance your skills in 70+ sessions led by experts and contributors
from more than 30 projects spanning the open source stack and powering the Internet:
• Scripting and RIAs: PHP, AJAX, Python, Ruby, JavaScript, JavaFX,
and jMaki
• Tools: NetBeans, Eclipse, Subversion, and Others
• Web 2.0 Applications: Social Networks, Mashups, and
Web Services
• Chip Design: OpenSPARC
• Web-Scale Computing: HPC, SaaS, Utility/Cloud, OpenSSO,
and Project Darkstar
• Operating Systems: OpenSolaris and Linux Distributions
• Web and Application Servers: GlassFish, Apache, and JBoss
• Databases: MySQL, PostgreSQL, and Java DB
• And more: Music, Robotics, ODF, OpenDS, OpenJDK,
OpenOffice.org, Mobile and Embedded, and Strategy
PLAN TO STICK AROUND
You’ll also have complimentary access to the 2008 JavaOneSM conference general sessions and Pavilion on Tuesday, May 6.
Register Today – It’s FREE!
developers.sun.com/events/communityone
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Quoting jim (jim@well.com):
this is Sun-sponsored, Open-Solaris oriented, yes? if so, seems not Linux-oriented and therefore not appropriate for LUG announcements. the Open-Solaris guy at LugRadio admitted that O-S is going head to head against Linux for backroom server space ("the desktop is too much Ubuntu's for us to try to compete there").
This particular marketing firm seems to be simply hitting up everyone it can find. I got copies via a couple of avenues including involvement with the local FreeBSD group.
I find the marketing angle a bit tasteless but I think the event is worth a mention on -talk. I notice they have two speakers who also appeared at LUG Radio (Joe "Zonker" Brockmeier, Benjamin Mako Hill) plus a couple others I'd like to catch (James Gosling, David Koelle). This looks kind of fun. I couldn't care less about the $500 beer tab at Thirsty Bear though.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Jesse Zbikowski embeddedlinuxguy@gmail.com wrote:
I find the marketing angle a bit tasteless but I think the event is worth a mention on -talk. I notice they have two speakers who also appeared at LUG Radio (Joe "Zonker" Brockmeier, Benjamin Mako Hill) plus a couple others I'd like to catch (James Gosling, David Koelle). This looks kind of fun. I couldn't care less about the $500 beer tab at Thirsty Bear though.
The MySQL talks look interesting to me, so I'll probably go.
There were plenty of beer drinkers at Shuttleworth's talk, so there may be some interest in that.
Mike
Well, the "talk" list is unmoderated, and there's nothing policy-wise preventing someone from mentioning the event there and/or the "marketing" incentive or discussing that ... if they feel so inclined.
I find the marketing angle a bit tasteless but I think the event is worth a mention on -talk. I notice they have two speakers who also appeared at LUG Radio (Joe "Zonker" Brockmeier, Benjamin Mako Hill) plus a couple others I'd like to catch (James Gosling, David Koelle). This looks kind of fun. I couldn't care less about the $500 beer tab at Thirsty Bear though.