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DSNs arrived overnight on some of my test messages from
rick(a)linuxmafia.com to the 24 balug-announce subscribers for whom
delivery recently got disabled (over high bounce scores).
vdow(a)unex.berkeley.edu: Delivery attempts will continue
star(a)starshine.org: Delivery attempts will continue
luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu: Delivery attempts will continue
jtbolton(a)digizen.net: Delivery attempts will continue
cmsclaud(a)arches.uga.edu: Delivery attempts will continue
amcgee(a)virtualidentity.org: Delivery attempts will continue
harpo(a)thebackrow.net: Delivery attempts will continue
danlyke(a)chattanooga.net: Delivery attempts will continue
jason(a)jcorcoran.net: Delivery attempts will continue
kevinchi(a)tp.silkera.net: Delivery attempts will continue
sugo(a)pescaralug.org: Delivery attempts will continue
theeba(a)cultureisaweapon.org: 454 4.7.1 Relay access denied
mhigashi(a)hooked.net: Delivery attempts will continue
mark(a)gidgetkitchen.org: Delivery attempts will continue
travis+ml-balug-talk(a)subspacefield.org: Delivery attempts will continue
ngunther(a)ricochet.net: Delivery attempts will continue
mditter(a)student.santarosa.edu: Delivery attempts will continue
dlym(a)pop.vox.secureserver.net (generated from dlym(a)mail.sfpcug.org)
Delivery attempts will continue
That's 18 of them. I'll wait to hear about the other six.
(Of course, those six may have been SMTP 250-delivered immediately,
yesterday. I've not checked my outbound logs, to see.)
Those 18 all seem highly likely to be genuinely undeliverable
subscription addresses, but I'll wait for the test attempt to
time out. Except, of those 18, "theeba(a)cultureisaweapon.org" is
definitely undeliverable, so I just now removed it from the roster (to
clean things up just that little bit more).
1
2
Here we have listed 27 subscribed addresses on balug-announce that
on Sunday got delivery disabled, all at once, on account of too high a
bounce score. Of those, three were special cases, resolved as follows:
1. glub-balug-talk(a)gmane.org (service moved to m.gmane-mx.org; see
https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/)
removed old subscription, sent invite to glub-balug-talk(a)m.gmane-mx.org
2. grep(a)oriole.sbay.org (gone; DNS doesn't resolve any more): removed
3. lobal(a)cds1.net: non-delivery notice says: "550 sorry, no mailbox here
by that name": removed
4. Doug Lym <dlym(a)pop.vox.secureserver.net> a longtime friend of mine,
is subscribed as "dlym(a)mail.sfpcug.org", which FQDN is a CNAME
resolving to pop.vox.secureserver.net . I sent from rick(a)linuxmafia.com
to his mail.sfpcug.org the following form message, which appears to have
SMTP 250 delivered (in any event, did not generate DSN):
From: Rick Moen <rick(a)linuxmafia.com>
To: [recipient]
Subject: Checking your BALUG subscription address's deliverability
Greetings. Your address is subscribed to announcements mailing list
balug-announce(a)lists.balug.org, but lately has been undeliverable,
so this is a test message to verify you're still reachable.
Apologies for any intrusion. This is the best way I could think
of to check.
-- Rick Moen
Bay Area Linux User Group listadmin
5 through 27: Likewise, I sent the same form mail to the remaining 23
subscribers, listed below with fullnames where known:
Art McGee <amcgee(a)virtualidentity.org>
btimberl(a)student.santarosa.edu
cmsclaud(a)arches.uga.edu
Dan Lyke <danlyke(a)chattanooga.net>
Will Lowe <harpo(a)thebackrow.net>
Jason Corcoran <jason(a)jcorcoran.net>
jsmith4(a)student.santarosa.edu
jtbolton(a)digizen.net
kevinchi(a)tp.silkera.net
Laurie Pennisi <lpennisi(a)student.santarosa.edu>
Andru Luvisi <luvisi(a)andru.sonoma.edu>
Mark Terranova <mark(a)gidgetkitchen.org>
mditter(a)student.santarosa.edu
Mike Higashi <mhigashi(a)hooked.net>
Neil J. Gunther <ngunther(a)ricochet.net>
rhernand(a)student.santarosa.edu
shart(a)blacklight.net
Heather Stern <star(a)starshine.org>
sugo(a)pescaralug.org
theeba(a)cultureisaweapon.org
Travis Hassloch <travis+ml-balug-announce(a)subspacefield.org>
Travis Hassloch <travis+ml-balug-talk(a)subspacefield.org>
vdow(a)unex.berkeley.edu
As with my mail to Doug Lym, all of my test mails to those
appear to have gone through.
Michael P., AFAIK, only you have the MTA/MLM log file access on the BALUG
host necessary to determine why these subscribers' mail is generating
bounce scores. Therefore, I am ending my investigation with the
problem left open, unless someone can think of another route forward.
That leaves subscribers 4-27 (above) in "B" status, delivery disabled
owing to high bounce scores, and likely eventually to get unsubscribed.
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sugo(a)pescaralug.org
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theeba(a)cultureisaweapon.org
host cultureisaweapon.org [183.181.85.9]
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<theeba(a)cultureisaweapon.org>:
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mhigashi(a)hooked.net
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Hi, Kevin. You've apparently for some time had kwz(a)eecs.berkeley.edu
subscribed to the balug-announce(a)lists.balug.org mailing list,
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some sort of SMTP alias, to your GMail account.
Please be advised that, in 2022, that will not work, and will cause
mass-rejection of mail, because it will trigger antiforgery defences.
If I were you, I would change _all_ such subscriptions you may have,
to eliminate the redirection mechanism.
Accordingly, I am removing your kwz(a)eecs.berkeley.edu subscription
from balug-announce, and having GNU Mailman at lists.balug.org send
an "invitation" easy-subscribe offer to Kevin Zimmerman
<zimmkw(a)gmail.com>, in case you still wish to be on balug-announce
from _that_ address.
-- Rick Moen
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dates, lists, number of members:
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2022-06-01 832 259 35
2022-05-01 832 259 35
2022-04-01 832 259 35
2022-03-01 833 259 35
2022-02-01 833 259 35
2022-01-01 833 258 35
2021-12-01 832 257 35
2021-11-01 831 257 35
2021-10-01 832 257 35
2021-09-01 832 257 35
2021-08-01 832 257 35
2021-07-01 832 257 35
2021-06-01 832 256 35
2021-05-01 833 257 35
2021-04-01 832 259 35
2021-03-01 833 259 35
2021-02-01 833 259 35
2021-01-01 833 259 35
2020-12-01 832 259 35
2020-11-01 833 260 35
2020-10-01 834 260 35
2020-09-01 835 260 35
2020-08-01 834 259 34
2020-07-01 834 266 34
2020-06-01 838 266 34
2020-05-01 839 267 34
2020-04-01 840 270 34
2020-03-01 840 271 34
2020-02-01 841 271 34
2020-01-01 841 271 34
2019-12-01 841 271 34
2019-11-01 840 271 34
2019-10-01 842 271 34
2019-09-01 844 272 34
2019-08-01 847 272 34
2019-07-01 852 272 36
2019-06-01 854 273 37
2019-05-01 856 272 38
2019-04-01 853 273 38
2019-03-01 851 273 38
2019-02-01 853 273 38
2019-01-01 856 274 38
2018-12-01 858 274 38
2018-11-01 861 274 39
2018-10-02 862 274 39
2018-09-01 864 274 38
2018-07-28 866 278 38
2018-06-08 870 282 38
2018-04-28 875 282 38
2018-02-17 880 283 36
2017-11-04 883 284 36
2017-08-19 897 293 37
2017-07-01 897 297 38
2017-05-27 897 297 38
2017-05-16 897 296 38
2017-04-01 896 297 38
2017-03-30 885 297 38
2016-05-03 886 291 39
2016-04-03 887 290 39
2016-03-05 888 291 45
2016-01-05 887 295 45
2015-12-05 887 296 45
2015-11-07 887 301 45
2015-10-06 888 301 45
2015-09-05 887 301 45
2015-08-04 888 301 45
2015-07-03 888 300 45
2015-06-05 888 301 46
2015-05-02 885 298 45
2015-04-04 884 297 44
2015-03-07 886 298 44
2015-02-06 885 303 44
2015-01-07 885 304 45
2014-12-06 886 304 45
2014-11-01 884 302 45
2014-10-04 881 303 46
2014-09-06 878 309 44
2014-06-13 875 307 44
2014-05-02 874 306 44
2014-04-04 876 306 44
2014-03-01 876 306 43
2014-01-11 872 305 42
2013-10-05 854 293 40
2013-08-31 855 295 41
2013-07-20 852 297 40
2013-04-10 838 286 41
2013-03-03 841 289 41
2013-02-02 843 291 41
2012-12-15 845 310 41
2012-03-23 818 310 39
2012-02-01 813 307 40
2011-04-28 768 291 37
2011-02-27 762 288 36
2010-05-02 730 289 34
2010-04-01 727 291 33
2010-03-16 727 293 33
2009-12-16 716 290 33
2009-09-09 700 288 32
2009-03-27 677 287 29
2009-01-10 662 290 30
2008-08-17 635 290 29
2008-03-03 571 247 28
2008-01-02 337 260 28
2007-12-28 336 261 28
2007-09-03 264 258 27
2007-07-24 287 256 27
2007-06-17 280 249 27
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