Andrew, Cool, thanks for the tip. I'll review and consider (hope you don't mind I also post this reply to our "admin" list), and may update/add/tweak on what we've presently got in the footer bits. Key issue/problem, is that most of these folks that hit reply and ask/demand we unsubscribe them, don't bother to read (or remember or note) the instructions/information when they subscribe, don't pay attention to the (by default) monthly reminders the list automatically sends them, and can't be bothered to read (or comprehend) footers. In any case, when I get some time, I'll compare and review what we've presently got in the footers, and see if it may be worth changing/adding/updating. And can't really put it up higher (e.g. top) of the email - as that would further annoy/inconvenience the 99.9%* who are perfectly competent and capable of managing their list subscribe/unsubscribe status - to accommodate the 0.1%* that can't be bothered to read and follow basic instructions and documentation. And good to hear from you! ... been quite a while. I'm well, hope you're well too! references/excerpts (and partially REDACTED): *http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-admin-balug.org/2014-September/001507...

From: "Andrew Fife" <andrewbfife@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: Subject: BALUG list(s) unsubscribe Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:49:09 -0600

Hi Michael:

It's been a while and I hope you are well!

If you're interested in added an unsubscribe link to the footer of all messages sent via Mailman, it looks like that can be done fairly easily. I found these instructions on how to append messages with an unsubscribe link here:

http://www.mediaserve.com/knowledgebase/93/How-do-I-add-an-unsubscribe-link-...

I hope this is helpful, but no sweat if you prefer not to use this.

Kind regards,

Andrew

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On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:34 PM, "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote:

Subscribe/unsubscribe is completely self-service on BALUG lists.

So, you should be able to fully take care of that yourself. See the reference information (links, etc.) provided further below.

If that doesn't work for you, please provide: o The error diagnostic(s) (if any) you're getting when you attempt to unsubscribe. o What steps you're following that result in the above (never tell me/us nor anyone your list password, but otherwise provide relevant details) o FULL EMAIL HEADERS of an example message that you're getting or still getting that you're trying to unsubscribe from.

Hopefully you should be able to self-unsubscribe, but if that fails, please let us know, as noted above.

Thanks for your attention to this and your cooperation,

The busy BALUG / list administrator folks.

See also / references / excerpts / hints: http://www.balug.org/#Lists http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-announce-balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-admin-balug.org http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi

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